Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 13:51:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Hodges <rh@matriplex.com> To: "Matthew D. Fuller" <fullermd@futuresouth.com> Cc: Paul Richards <paul@freebsd-services.com>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should URL's be pervasive. Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10109011341490.86886-100000@mail.matriplex.com> In-Reply-To: <20010901024247.P8939@futuresouth.com>
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On Sat, 1 Sep 2001, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > > For traceroute, I want to send a series of TCP SYN packets to > > www.ufp.org, port 80 with increasing TTL values. Perhaps this > > No, it doesn't. > http://www.ufp.org/ does NOT mean TCP port 80. > www.ufp.org:80 means port 80, I don't know of any simple common way to > say TCP. > > http://www.ufp.org/ means the host 'www.ufp.org' using the protocol > 'http' with the TCP port 80 implicity as a result of the 'http'. > Traceroute is not going to use HTTP. Ping is not going to use HTTP. > Rpcinfo is not going to use HTTP. A mail client is not going to use > HTTP (this one is perhaps debatable, but I'm sure as hell not going > there). Agreed. I thought that it would be funny to carry this to an absurd conclusion, but I guess some people would rather just take the opportunity to assume ignorance in others. > If you want to take a URI passed to 'ping', say, and parse out a > hostname, that's one thing which I'm sure we could have endless > disagreement about. But doing that is *NOT* parsing it as a URI. Well, since humor doesn't work, I will be blunt. I think that the utilities and agents work just fine, thank-you-very-much. I think that adding URI handling to ping, traceroute, ftp, mail, etc. is a waste of time. To me, "mailto:" suggests a TCP connection to port 25, and it is (at best) nuissance information when I want to do a ping or traceroute. The same with "http:". -Richard ------------------------------------------- Richard Hodges | Matriplex, inc. Product Manager | 769 Basque Way rh@matriplex.com | Carson City, NV 89706 775-886-6477 | www.matriplex.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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