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Date:      Tue, 6 Nov 2001 02:32:23 -0800
From:      Kristopher Zentner <darxpryte@u.washington.edu>
To:        Kal Torak <kaltorak@quake.com.au>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ICQ and NAT again.. :(
Message-ID:  <20011106023223.A46003@u.washington.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20011104161019.B1611@Deadcell.ANT>; from ntaflos.andreas@gmx.net on Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 04:10:19PM %2B0100
References:  <20011103023357.A1564@Deadcell.ANT> <5.1.0.14.0.20011102210953.00ae4528@rfnj.org> <20011104040845.A696@Deadcell.ANT> <3BE4D3E2.6070608@quake.com.au> <20011104161019.B1611@Deadcell.ANT>

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While this solution may not allow file transfers, it will simplify things a
bit. I don't believe anyone has brought up the possiblity of using jabber.
There are clients for Windows and *nix (I use the Gnome based Gabber). I
started using it when i found out that Licq (and other clones) recently
have a lot of trouble sending messages through server to Win ICQ users.

Jabber uses TCP and XML only so as long as you're using a stateful firewall
or NAT in this case, which NAT should be, UDP packets don't even enter the
equation and it still works fine. It works by sending messages to a jabber
server which then translates the message to the appropriate protocol (such
as ICQ, MSN, Yahoo or AIM) and sends it on its way. Be sure to check out:

http://www.jabbercentral.org (lots of useful info, a FAQ, etc)

Also, don't miss jabberview in the lower right hand corner to find a
server. I've found that theoretic.com works well.

Regards,

-Kris

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