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Date:      Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:41:15 -0700
From:      Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>
To:        Josef Karthauser <joe@tao.org.uk>
Cc:        Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>, Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@starjuice.net>, Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Adding support for a global src tree serial number
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In-Reply-To: <20020131183618.C84715@genius.tao.org.uk>
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> > > Maybe we're talking about different things.  The point of having a
> > > kernel version date that is related to the source and not to the
> > > build-date is to have an idea of what source versions might contribute
> > > to a bug.
> > 
> > Agreed.  But, I don't think we should limit it to just kernel, since
> > there are non-kernel bugs, and it would be nice to know how they work.
> 
> Of course.  The kernel is a good place to start though.  The date in
> uname -v isn't particularly helpful at the moment.

Agreed.

> Userland issues
> are clouded by the fact that each piece of software is discrete.

And, it's not just a binary software issue.  Configuration files that
change, etc...

> Also
> we have 'ident' which can tell us about any particular piece of
> software.  We could almost do a ident-extract-latest-date in periodic
> to deal with userland.

See above.  Ident doesn't give a snapshot of the entire system.  Having
a global serial # for the system is a better thing in terms of user
support, IMO.  (It could be included in PR reports).



Nate

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