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Date:      Sat, 16 Mar 2002 11:08:50 -0600
From:      Mike Meyer <mwm-dated-1016730531.2a6414@mired.org>
To:        "Steve O'Hara-Smith" <steve@sohara.org>
Cc:        freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Some video Capture questions (Was: Some audio capture questions)
Message-ID:  <15507.31778.986659.728170@guru.mired.org>
In-Reply-To: <20020316145438.7695fac0.steve@sohara.org>
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In <20020316145438.7695fac0.steve@sohara.org>, Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org> typed:
> On Sat, 16 Mar 2002 04:58:49 -0600
> MM> I've got two machines, A and B. B has enough oomph to capture
> MM> real-time video - it's done it. B doesn't, or at least didn't when I
> MM> tried using MS's software on it without tuning. However, the video
> MM> feed of interest is tied to B. How much oomph does B need in order to
> MM> get the bits to A to capture them? I don't need on-the-fly encoding,
> MM> so I'll give it up to get good quality.
> 	Hmm there's a good one. It all comes down to byte shuffling bandwidth
> though. First biggie is full resolution (640x480 for NTSC or 768x576 PAL)
> or half resolution. All real time video handling I've seen going to date
> has been in half res - (full res is rather a lot of bps ~30Mbyte/sec for
> RGB24 or ~20Mbtye for most useful YUV formats). This is too much for nearly
> all systems - going to half res quarters the bandwidth (5-7.5Mbytes per
> second).

I'm turning the things into VCDs, so most of it is at 352x240.

> MM> Between them is a 100BaseT network and a switch. I can put a second
> MM> ethernet card in B and move the link from A to that instead of the
> MM> switch if required, but I don't think it's required.
> 	It may well be - you want at least half the bandwidth for
> uncompressed video.

Sounds like I'll need more like 1/6th, which is still pushing it, but
may well work. I'll have to give it a try.

> MM> I'm already doing this with audio to play it on A with esound, just by
> MM> doing "ssh -n B esdrec | esdcat" on A. Is there a similar tool for
> MM> video? Well, a similar tool that will work with the ATI AIW? Or should
> 	Look into ffmpeg - the capture isn't working properly yet (audio
> slips terribly and my bt848 driver is still a hack) but the streaming server
> stuff seems to be good.

Unfortunately, the capture box has a ATI AIW in it. So the big
question about saturating the bandwidth is "Can Windows/Linux do it."

	Thanx,
	<mike
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