Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 21:42:54 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" <crist.clark@attbi.com> To: Scott Lampert <scott@lampert.org> Cc: security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pf OR ipf ? Message-ID: <20020406214253.H70207@blossom.cjclark.org> In-Reply-To: <20020406144717.5b973afd.scott@lampert.org>; from scott@lampert.org on Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 02:47:17PM -0800 References: <20020328064640.GA74780@area51.dk> <Pine.LNX.4.44.0203281308070.2202-100000@scribble.fsn.hu> <20020328121200.C97841@blossom.cjclark.org> <20020406144717.5b973afd.scott@lampert.org>
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On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 02:47:17PM -0800, Scott Lampert wrote: > On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:12:00 -0800 > "Crist J. Clark" <cjc@FreeBSD.ORG> wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 01:20:40PM +0100, Attila Nagy wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > > pf currently runs only on OpenBSD. Jordan Hubbard has expressed > > > > annoyance with the fact that there are now three filters (ipfw, ipf and > > > > pf) so it seems unlikely that FreeBSD is going to port it. > > > I'm sad to hear that. I think diversity is a good thing. With FreeBSD if > > > you are paranoid you can set up your firewall rules in two packet filters, > > > which has a different codebase. So if one fails, it is unlikely that the > > > other will too. > > > I think it is good to have more than one packet filter in the kernel :) > > > > > > With PF some more features could be also ported, like the bridge support. > > > And that would be a good thing also. > > > > There is nothing special about PF that makes bridge support > > easier. Afterall, there is mature bridging support for IPFilter in > > OpenBSD. I also recently committed a hack for IPFilter bridging > > support in -CURRENT. I'll put the -STABLE patches on the website > > listed in the headers and .sig today if anyone wants 'em. > > Please do! The patch is there. > Thats the one thing I've really been missing in FreeBSD. > Any chance of that ever making it into a RELEASE tree? It's in 5.0-CURRENT so it may make 5.0-RELEASE. ;) I do not plan to merge the code into 4.x-STABLE in its current form. I really am not happy with how it works in -CURRENT either, but to get it to work more cleanly and in a way darrenr suggested, I'd need to modify IPFilter code, which I have tried to avoid. So the -CURRENT code is experimental, but that's OK for -CURRENT. It's not OK for -STABLE. I recently started working fulltime again and don't see myself working too much on this without funding or some other motivation to "do it right." -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message
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