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Date:      Tue, 24 Dec 2002 19:54:32 +0200
From:      Ruslan Ermilov <ru@freebsd.org>
To:        Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
Cc:        "matthew c. mead" <mmead@goof.com>, Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org>, freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Subject:   ping -i 0 (was: Re: TCP interactions)
Message-ID:  <20021224175432.GA92573@sunbay.com>
In-Reply-To: <200212230652.gBN6qZmI035236@apollo.backplane.com>
References:  <20021221165745.A67089@goof.com> <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1021222105809.91887B-100000@fledge.watson.org> <20021222151259.A21189@goof.com> <200212222106.gBML6INI032302@apollo.backplane.com> <20021222230527.A30324@goof.com> <200212230652.gBN6qZmI035236@apollo.backplane.com>

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On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 10:52:35PM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote:
>=20
> :
> :Hmm, same cables, same switch, different card, now it all works.
> :
> :I did do some ICMP ping testing with ping -f and only lost 3
> :packets after letting it run for a good 10s.
> :
> :
> :-matt
>=20
>     If it is working properly you should not lose *ANY* packets on an
>     otherwise idle connection, except possibly the last one that the
>     ping was sending when you ^C'd it (and sometimes ping doesn't wait
>     long enough on the last packet when you give it a specific count).=20
>     So at most it should report one lost packet over any period of time.
>     Certainly not 3.
>=20
>     e.g.
> 	workstation# ping -c 1000 -i 0.05 apollo
> 	...
> 	1000 packets transmitted, 1000 packets received, 0% packet loss
> 	round-trip min/avg/max/stddev =3D 0.148/0.159/0.248/0.009 ms
>=20
Then how could you explain that ``ping -c 1000 -i 0 localhost''
sometimes exhibits the loss?  I've bitten my head today trying
to figure out what's going on here (5.0-CURRENT), to no avail.

This is with net.inet.icmp.icmplim and net.inet.icmp.icmplim_output
both set to zero, and with only lo0 interface ``up''.  (Yes I know
that -i should not allow 0, even for root.)

The sendto(2) call in ping.c:pinger() always succeeds, yet
``netstat -s -p icmp'' shows the same delta as ping(8)?

allmouth# netstat -z -s -p icmp > /dev/null
allmouth# netstat -s -p icmp > 1
allmouth# ping -i0 -c1000 localhost | tail -3
--- localhost ping statistics ---
1000 packets transmitted, 217 packets received, 78% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev =3D 0.063/6.769/30.353/12.241 ms
allmouth# netstat -s -p icmp > 2
allmouth# diff 1 2
3a4,5
>       Output histogram:
>               echo reply: 217
10c12,15
<       0 message responses generated
---
>       Input histogram:
>               echo reply: 217
>               echo: 217
>       217 message responses generated


Cheers,
--=20
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