Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 21:58:15 -0800 From: David Schultz <dschultz@uclink.Berkeley.EDU> To: Christopher Vance <vance@aurema.com> Cc: Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Seat-belt for source upgrades from stable to current Message-ID: <20030131055815.GB11988@HAL9000.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20030131163422.A26022@aurema.com> References: <20030129191822.GO78848@starjuice.net> <p05200f31ba5e4c0bbc26@[128.113.24.47]> <20030131120311.F16630@aurema.com> <20030131030916.GA11445@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030131034043.GA53996@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20030131040506.GA11769@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030131050711.GA54395@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20030131163422.A26022@aurema.com>
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Thus spake Christopher Vance <vance@aurema.com>:
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 09:07:11PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote:
> : On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 08:05:06PM -0800, David Schultz wrote:
> : > Thus spake Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>:
> : > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 07:09:16PM -0800, David Schultz wrote:
> : > > > OT: Is there a good way to get the CVS metadata in /usr/src and
> : > > > /usr/ports without transferring the entire source tree over the
> : > > > network? On some machines, I'd like to be able to do a CVS
> : > > > {diff,log,update} now and then, but I don't have the disk space
> : > > > for the entire repository. I usually end up blowing away /usr/src
> : > > > and fetching a new copy from a CVS server, but I'm sure this is
> : > > > far from ideal for the people who pay for that server's bandwidth.
> : > > >
> : > >
> : > > anoncvs
> : > >
> : > > See the handbook for info.
> : >
> : > That's a great answer...to a different question. ;-)
> :
> : It's the correct answer. I assumed that you knew
> : how to use cvs.
>
> cvsup gets me everything I need to track and compile both current and
> stable.
>
> I don't want to be forced into using cvs when there's a better tool
> available (for some definition of better). I get paid to use cvs at
> work, and that's how I know to choose something else...
>
> For a while, I used to grab the whole repo (with cvsup), and used cvs
> to get current and stable out of it, but now I consider that a waste
> of space/time, and have reverted to just using cvsup to get the tags I
> want.
>
> I'm not a FreeBSD developer, and very rarely (just a handful of times)
> have had to modify existing stuff to do what I want, so I don't need
> my own repo to commit to. With that, disappers any need to use cvs.
>
> Perhaps you can explain why cvsup is the wrong answer...
I don't know about Steve, but cvsup is the wrong answer for me
because it's a mirroring tool and not a version control tool.
Among the things I would like to do are:
- Update to a specific version of a specific file from the
repository.
- Generate a diff between two revisions in the repository,
or between a version in the repository and some local
patches of my own.
- View logs for particular files.
I asked the question in hopes that there would be some neat
feature of cvsup that mocked up some CVS metadata for me, but
since nobody has mentioned any such thing, I guess I'm out of
luck. Mirroring the entire repository is not an option on
machines with less than 6 GB of spare disk.[1] Transferring the
entire source tree over the network via anoncvs is suboptimal when
all I really want is a few kilobytes of 'CVS' subdirectories.
But I guess it will have to do for now.
[1] When the system is an aging dual PPro or 200MHz Alpha using
SCSI, buying new drives is not practical.
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