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Date:      Sat, 8 Mar 2003 13:51:16 -0800
From:      David Schultz <das@FreeBSD.org>
To:        "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>
Cc:        Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>, Vallo Kallaste <kalts@estpak.ee>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: "leak" in softupdates?
Message-ID:  <20030308215116.GA70447@HAL9000.homeunix.com>
In-Reply-To: <20030307203014.D66674@hub.org>
References:  <20030305204526.T38115@hub.org> <20030307101718.GA1908@kevad.internal> <20030307081643.B15693@hub.org> <200303070648.26984.wes@softweyr.com> <20030307152045.P18433@hub.org> <20030307214306.GB63881@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030307203014.D66674@hub.org>

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Thus spake Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org>:
> On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, David Schultz wrote:
> 
> > Thus spake Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org>:
> > > > Being worked on.  Not so hard to do, much harder to do right.  Guess who
> > > > took the easy sleazy path? ;^)  The other good news is that the intel
> > > > network cards, both 10/100 (fxp) and 10/100/1000 (em) support 64-bit
> > > > addressing, even in 32-bit PCI slots, so you'll have at least ONE enet
> > > > interface that'll work reasonably fast.
> > >
> > > Yes, I don't recall who it was that explained it to me (Terry, maybe?),
> > > but I understand the problem with going above 4gig under ia32, and was
> > > personally just sitting back and waiting for Intel to go full steam ahead
> > > on the ia64 stuff ... but they just sacked it :(  Man, did that ever throw
> > > a shiver up my back ...
> >
> > It's amazing how many times bank switching has been reinvented, eh?
> 
> Just curious here, but with the speed of CPUs nowadays, how much impact
> would bank switching have on performance?

I don't know exactly what impact PAE would have on performance,
but an 8 GB PAE machine can't be worse than a 4 GB machine that's
swapping like mad.  I do know that I/O performance will suffer if
your I/O devices can't address more than 4 GB of RAM, since that
means much of your data will have to be copied to bounce buffers
below 4 GB.  Does anyone have Actual Data on how well it works?

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