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Date:      Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:04:52 -0500
From:      "M. L. Dodson" <bdodson@scms.utmb.EDU>
To:        Paul Robinson <paul@iconoplex.co.uk>
Cc:        Samy Al Bahra <samy@kerneled.com>
Subject:   Re: YAPIB (was: Drawing graphics on terminal)
Message-ID:  <16115.5252.652966.23693@histidine.utmb.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20030620095051.GQ20204@iconoplex.co.uk>
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Paul Robinson writes:
 > On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 02:26:13PM -0400, The Anarcat wrote:
 > 
 > > It's right now to the point I wouldn't consider writing more code for
 > > libh, but I'd reuse the ideas in a smaller, plugin-based, swig-foobar
 > > rewrite.
 > 
 > I went back and re-read the notes on the website about libh's design 
 > yesterday, first time in a while. It has some good ideas. Definitely lots to 
 > pick up on.
 >  
 > > So yes, libh is kinda bad, for me at least. And it involves a lot of
 > > C++ magic I don't really like.
 > 
 > *shudders*. I was sorting out my flat last night getting ready to move, and 
 > I found my old undergrad copy of the second edition K&R book. I hugged it. 
 > C++ is for girls. :-)
 >  

Sorry to unlurk and run, but I think a perusal of the history of
the libh project will show that the main gui toolkit candidates,
qt and tvision, were written in C++.  I don't think it was any
thing more complicated than that.  Jordan can clarify if he
wishes, but I've been lurking as a kind of libh "groupie" for a
long time, and I can't remember any posting that said "We're
going to do this in C++".

Bud Dodson,
who would like to see this project resurrected, but hopes it is
not written in C++ with tcl as the scripting language, and who is
not enough of a programmer to contribute directly.

 > > But, as always, if someone feels like picking the horse (wether it's
 > > alive or dead I'm never too sure), feel free! The code is there for
 > > anyone who dares to look. I've also put up a doxygen framework and
 > > there's a bit of design doc, so no, libh's still no so bad since so
 > > much people put so much time in it during its long existence.
 > 
 > Cool.
 >  
 > > I apologize again for being so brutal to this project which had so
 > > high hopes and also to all the people who worked on it.
 > 
 > It's understandable. Think of it this way - at least the next-gen installer 
 > is now likely to get a better name, whoever it is that writes it. :-)
 > 
 > -- 
 > Paul Robinson
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