Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2004 20:30:49 -0400 From: Paul Mather <paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> To: "Simon L. Nielsen" <simon@freebsd.org> Cc: Harald Schmalzbauer <h@schmalzbauer.de> Subject: Re: atacontrol Raid, cannot re-add member to array Message-ID: <1088987448.691.10.camel@zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org> In-Reply-To: <20040704221056.GE862@zaphod.nitro.dk> References: <DEC925D2FB9081448C3D6EC26E85868CD4D7AC@steinmail.swistgroup.com> <20040701083204.790719f2.steve@sohara.org> <200407042333.33470@harryhomeworkstation> <20040704221056.GE862@zaphod.nitro.dk>
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On Sun, 2004-07-04 at 18:10, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: > On 2004.07.04 23:33:28 +0200, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: > > > I've never tried ataraid with "non-raid" controllers but I doubt that > > detach/attach would work. > > It does work, you "just" have to hotswap the disk [1]. I tried it > some time ago, and I successfully did a rebuild, though I did kill one > of the disks shortly after since I tried to plug in the power cable > the wrong way during another test (yes that's stupid, I know :-) ). So does this mean ATA RAID doesn't work on "non-raid" controllers that have non-hot swappable drives attached? (E.g., a drive get hard errors, is marked as failed and the RAID as DEGRADED, and you have to shut down the machine to remove and replace it---but ATA RAID won't recognise it/rebuild onto it when you reboot with the replacement drive.) If that is the case, the man page really should note that serious limitation. I have tried the detach/attach on a non-raid controller to simulate failure and have *never* managed to get rebuild to work. I've also tried the shutdown/remove/replace/reboot method but, again, *never* managed to get rebuild to work on a "non-raid" controller. :-( I've never had any hotswap-capable drives to test the hot-swap replacement/rebuild method. :-( > Well, I'm using it just fine on my main mailserver (running 5.2.1) but > that's a RAID1 with standard a ATA controller. I wish it would work for me. :-) I have a non-raid controller 5.2.1 system that I tried it on (with non-hot swap drives) that I eventually had to bail and use Vinum on. Alas, Vinum seems to be rotting at a fast pace in CURRENT, so I'm worried about the prospect of being able to upgrade that system when 5.3 rolls around... :-( Cheers, Paul. -- e-mail: paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa
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