Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:22:18 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy <peterjeremy@optushome.com.au> To: Pawel Malachowski <pawmal-posting@freebsd.lublin.pl> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is Stable Message-ID: <20040823112218.GA80820@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <20040823105400.GA42452@shellma.zin.lublin.pl> References: <6E7EB9E8-F4BD-11D8-94CF-003065781ED0@runbox.com> <20040823045620.GG15251@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> <20040823105400.GA42452@shellma.zin.lublin.pl>
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On Mon, Aug 23, 2004 at 12:54:00PM +0200, Pawel Malachowski wrote: >5.x is actually frozen, I mean, there is no development branch for 5.x. >There are some minor fixes being commited to HEAD, but they won't be in >RELENG_5 because of code freeze. Depending on how important the fixes are, they may wind up in RELENG_5 and maybe 5.3. All you need to do is convince re@ that the change is important enough to go in. > Will these fixes be incorporated to RELENG_5 after 5.3-RELEASE is out? Maybe - if they are relevant to RELENG_5. > 5.3R schedule says about October. >Isn't it increasing a risk of `fixed-in-current-long-time-ago-but- >-forgotten-MFC' hell? ;) According to the schedule, 5.3 is about 6 weeks off. It's normal to freeze the RELENG_n branch whilst RELENG_n_m is being prepared. This makes it much easier to move the RELENG_n_m tags if necessary. Note that there hasn't been any excuse for forgetting MFC's for several years now: The "MFC after" tags in commit messages automatically generate reminder e-mails to the committer. >Wasn't it better to branch both RELENG_5 (open) and RELENG_5_3 (frozen) >and allow developers to put changes in RELENG_5 after playing in HEAD >as usual, without the need of waiting to October? Important fixes can still be MFC'd as long as re@ agrees. This sort of issue seems to arise just before every release - code freezes are always flagged well in advance, giving people plenty of time to commit general changes. Peter
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