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Date:      Sat, 29 Jan 2005 01:55:44 -0800
From:      "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
To:        "Kris Kennaway" <kris@obsecurity.org>
Cc:        "Michael C. Shultz" <reso3w83@verizon.net>
Subject:   RE: Missing INDEX file in Ports
Message-ID:  <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNIECPFAAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com>
In-Reply-To: <20050128165040.GB90205@xor.obsecurity.org>

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Kris Kennaway
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 8:51 AM
> To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Michael C. Shultz
> Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 03:34:46AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> 
> > INDEX has been included with every CDROM pressing of FreeBSD 4.x
> > previously.  And this will be the last 4.X pressing.  So, it must
> > have required a really severe space
> > crunch to justify this significant of a deviation.
> 
> It was probably just forgotten.  Talk to the release engineers.
> 

Yes, that is my feeling as well.  Glad to see your not using some
silly justification to explain that it was deliberately left out. :-)

My intent on the initial post was to find out if others were seeing
the same thing.  Since they are, it's time to e-mail the release
people.  Unfortunately, though, from the looks of the docs coming
out of them, there's little interest in the release team on the 4.xx
line anymore so this is probably an exercise in futility.

Unfortunately the disappointing thing is that the 3.X release had
the same kind of thing happen.  The very last 3.X release of FreeBSD
had several broken things - notably ESDI support, bad144 no longer
worked, even when a few revs earlier it was working fine.  Now
we are seeing the same thing with 4.11 - a niggly problem that
marrs the normally perfect release.  I am concerned that if something
like INDEX was forgotten, that there's going to be other things
forgotten as well.  Sigh.  We really must learn when to quit on these
release trains.  4.10 was a perfect cap on a successful 4.x run.

Ted



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