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Date:      Sat, 16 Apr 2005 13:55:17 +0200
From:      Florent Thoumie <flz@xbsd.org>
To:        Roman Neuhauser <neuhauser@sigpipe.cz>
Cc:        freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Recommendations?
Message-ID:  <1113652517.36786.18.camel@cream.xbsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20050416114331.GA17943@isis.sigpipe.cz>
References:  <20050413210855.GA15088@bitsurf.net> <200504131714.20356.jkim@niksun.com> <86fyxt1ovu.fsf@xps.des.no> <20050415005850.GB80903@dragon.NUXI.org> <2fd864e050414180911e4e5be@mail.gmail.com> <20050415211600.GA1473@dragon.NUXI.org> <1113603823.91832.7.camel@cream.xbsd.org> <20050416114331.GA17943@isis.sigpipe.cz>

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Le Saturday 16 April 2005 =E0 13:43 +0200, Roman Neuhauser a =E9crit :
> # flz@xbsd.org / 2005-04-16 00:23:43 +0200:
> > Le Friday 15 April 2005 ? 14:16 -0700, David O'Brien a =E9crit :
> > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 06:09:04PM -0700, Astrodog wrote:
> > > > On 4/14/05, David O'Brien <obrien@freebsd.org> wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 03:14:45PM +0200, Dag-Erling Smrgrav wrot=
e:
> > > > > > Jung-uk Kim <jkim@niksun.com> writes:
> > > > > > > Stay away from nForce chipsets.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please stop spreading this little piece of disinformation.  nFo=
rce3
> > > > > > motherboards such as the Asus SK8N should work fine.
> > > > >=20
> > > > > DES stop spreading FUD.
> > > >=20
> > > > I think the point to be made here, is that there are SOME specific
> > > > nforce based boards, that work great,
> > >=20
> > > There are?  Which??  The SK8N that DES will respond to my email is
> > > actually high on the "bizzare issues" list.
> >=20
> > 	I have an Asus A8N-SLI (nforce4) Motherboard based box running=20
> > 	5-STABLE for some time now. Issues are :
> > 	x ACPI (quite common),
> > 	x Sound (not much a problem since I have an Emu10K1 based sound=20
> > 	card which is far better),
> > 	x Network (sk0 works fine, but not should-be-nv0),
> > 	x USB (no clue, I'm not using it ATM but firewire works).
> >=20
> > 	The system is totally usable,
>=20
>     You have listed things that are *not* usable, which means the board
>     is not *totally* usable. Please think a bit about what you post. :)
>
>     So, what *does* work on the board? PS/2 mouse / keyboard, ATA,
>     PCI-E graphics, and that's it?

	The only thing that is a bit annoying is sound (which has been=20
	reported as working, read the other posts). BTW, integrated=20
	sound chipset are usually crap.

	ACPI/APIC isn't really necessary (I wasn't using it since DES=20
	told it was working with NO_MIXED_MODE commented). The MB has=20
	two integrated networking chipsets, and people usually don't=20
	care about one not working. And I said I was clueless about USB=20
	because I wasn't using it.

	That makes the box usuable (remove "totally" if it can make you=20
	happier).

	My point is that a page with FreeBSD/amd64 status on different=20
	MBs would be much more useful than "Plz stay away from nvidia,=20
	this is crap".

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Florent Thoumie
flz@xbsd.org

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