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Date:      Wed, 04 May 2005 18:20:59 +0000
From:      Chuck Robey <chuckr@chuckr.org>
To:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Building kernel without some modules
Message-ID:  <4279128B.9080106@chuckr.org>
In-Reply-To: <20050504041730.GA45260@xor.obsecurity.org>
References:  <20050504040349.GA1460@gad.glazov.net> <20050504041730.GA45260@xor.obsecurity.org>

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Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 09:03:49AM +0500, Vitaly Bogdanov wrote:
> 
>>Hi.
>>Is it possible to build kernel without compiling unnecessary modules?
>>My system - freebsd5.3.
> 
> 
> See make.conf(5)

That wasn't very nice.  It's not that it's wrong, but the fella sounded 
to me like he was asking if a target existed, and not everyone is 
familiar with our make.  Responding like you did had the sole function 
of trying to shut off any other responses, and was just not helpful at 
all to the querent.

I honestly consider that what's happened to our make, the slow code 
changes that have just ruined it for cross-platform portability, to be 
scandolous (sp?).  There was no reason that the stuff needed to go into 
using all those specialized libraries that exist nowhere else but 
FreeBSD.  We have a functionally very , very nice make, but it's not so 
good that it knocks out the competition ... gmake has more than a few 
points that are definitely superior than ours (as the reverse is also 
true).  Making it so totally non-portable was a great example of bad 
spartsmanship.

I can't say that Linux isn't equally guilty of it, heck, more so, but 
that doesn't excuse it, sorry.

> 
> Kris



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