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Date:      Sat, 18 Jun 2005 07:52:31 -0700
From:      Everett Batey <efbatey@gmail.com>
To:        Kent Stewart <kstewart@owt.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ev Batey Gmail <efbatey@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: Advice replacing Xorg with XFree86_4 - Nightmare on Elm Street Up_1
Message-ID:  <e3ef6b79050618075227a97ba3@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <200506172009.23372.kstewart@owt.com>
References:  <e3ef6b79050617195324ae5411@mail.gmail.com> <200506172009.23372.kstewart@owt.com>

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Greg .. Right THEY (pkg_add, _delete, _info) are my friends.. =20

Kent .. =20

Could NOT find how to get XFree86-4.5.0,1 .. so=20

Thought I was doing pretty good grepping out all the pkg_info=20
refering xorg, 6.8.2 also, and pkg_delete -d-r each_found

Then after editing the /etc/make.conf file to point back to the=20
much more mature XFree86  ..  What EVER POSSESSED us
to make Xorg a default without warning, mentioning it DOES NOT
understand some MODERN, POPULAR, DRIVERS, eg Mine.

Then Here Came Freddie on Elm Street ...  since ggv was hosed=20
I could NOT cd the /usr/ports/gnome2 and make install .. that
died an early death ..

Finally falling fast onto my sword I did the effort to pkg_add -f -r
for gnome2 .. Now on my fast Sempron 2400, best part of an hour
of ...

pkg_add: package 'xorg-fonts-encodings-6.8.2' conflicts with XFree86-fontEn=
codin
gs-4.4.0
pkg_add: please use pkg_delete first to remove conflicting package(s) or -f=
 to f
orce installation
pkg_add: pkg_add of dependency 'xorg-fonts-encodings-6.8.2' failed (proceed=
ing a
nyway)
Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.4-release/=
All/x
org-libraries-6.8.2.tbz... Done.
pkg_add: package 'xorg-libraries-6.8.2' conflicts with XFree86-libraries-4.=
4.0_3
pkg_add: please use pkg_delete first to remove conflicting package(s) or -f=
 to f
orce installation
pkg_add: pkg_add of dependency 'xorg-libraries-6.8.2' failed (proceeding an=
yway)
Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.4-release/=
All/l
ibglut-6.0.1.tbz... Done.

AND of course looks like there are thousands of dependencies like this
to DELETE,? REINSTALL?  to get RID of Xorg ..

Is there a faster way other than throwing in the towel on FreeBSD and
reverting to
Fedora or Knoppix for my public servers?

/Everett/

On 6/17/05, Kent Stewart <kstewart@owt.com> wrote:
> On Friday 17 June 2005 07:53 pm, Everett Batey wrote:
> > Two weeks of fighting with Xorg on FreeBSD_4 ..
> >
> > CAN ANYONE tell me the steps for hopefully
> >   deleting Xorg and
> >   replacing with XFree86_4.
> > That runs fine with my KM3M-V on board video ..
> >
> > PLEASE,  I hate to think of leaving BSD after this
> > many years on my servers.
>=20
> You pkg_delete anything that starts with xorg-* and imake. Change
> make.conf to have
> X_WINDOW_SYSTEM=3Dxfree86-4
>=20
> You might be able to get away with just installing XFree86-4.5.0,1 and
> imake but I have a tendancy to think Murphy will get involved. If that
> happens, you will need to bebuild most/all of your ports that use
> XFree86.
>=20
> If you didn't do that when you installed xorg, that could be part of
> your problem.
>=20
> FWIW, xorg doesn't work well on my FreeBSD-4.x systems. I installed it,
> got tired of not being able to switch between the Spanish keyboard
> layout and English and reinstalled everything that had been built with
> XFree86. I had packages on an almost identical computer, so it wasn't a
> big deal and did a package install of everything.
>=20
> Other than the layout, it worked just fine, so, you have other problems.
>=20
> Kent
> >
> > Thank you
>=20
> --
> Kent Stewart
> Richland, WA
>=20
> http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html
>=20


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