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Date:      Thu, 8 Sep 2005 14:45:43 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Jon Dama <jd@ugcs.caltech.edu>
To:        Lars Erik Gullerud <lerik@nolink.net>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Default route doesn't change to wireless device (ath0)
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.53.0509081443080.18161@ngwee.ugcs.caltech.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20050908220217.X64137@electra.nolink.net>
References:  <20050901225346.0923E16A41F@hub.freebsd.org> <200509021003.39863.incmc@gmx.de> <20050902164957.GA22097@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <200509072128.04819.incmc@gmx.de> <20050907194130.GA2436@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <20050908220217.X64137@electra.nolink.net>

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> Bringing an interface down then back up is usually one of the "try this
> first" operations when troubleshooting all platforms I normally work on,
> exactly because it _does_ (normally) clear a lot of state info that you
> don't want around to confuse you (like the ARP cache and routing table
> entries).

Yes but surely you'd recognize a difference between a link state change
and issuing ifconfig ... down

In the latter case, I expect state to be flushed.  In the former, I expect
everything to resume when the link is restored.  Imagine having to
manually reinit your interfaces just because some joker temporary
unplugged your ethernet cable!





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