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Date:      Sat, 14 Jan 2006 09:23:08 -0800
From:      Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com>
To:        les@safety.net
Cc:        anchor <jacquejiang@hotmail.com>, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cwfw.komquats.com>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: My machine been hacked, I need help 
Message-ID:  <200601141723.k0EHN874037714@cwsys.cwsent.com>
In-Reply-To: Message from les@safety.net of "Sat, 14 Jan 2006 09:52:28 MST." <200601141652.k0EGqStk006474@ns3.safety.net>

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In message <200601141652.k0EGqStk006474@ns3.safety.net>, les@safety.net 
writes:
> > In message <200601141632.29709.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>, "Daniel O'Connor" 
> > writes
> > Only evidence collected by a forensic analysis tool 
> > is admissible in court.
> 
> Not necessarily true.  Log data that is routinely collected can be
> admissible.  Though, log data that you collected starting when you
> suspected there was something amiss will not be.

That is true for logfiles, however Canadian law requires a filesystem 
analysis tool. As little as fiveyears ago taking a DD dump of a device was 
admissible but I've been told by the RCMP that a forensic analysis tool is 
now required. I've been told that this is also true of US law. I'm not sure 
about British or European law.

Unfortunately taking people to court over hacking is difficult but not 
impossible. Police forces are becoming more receptive to the idea and tools 
which have been admitted in court previously make the job of preparing a 
successful case easier.


Cheers,
Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com>
Web:  http://www.komquats.com and http://www.bcbodybuilder.com
FreeBSD UNIX:  <cy@FreeBSD.org>   Web:  http://www.FreeBSD.org
BC Government:  <Cy.Schubert@gov.bc.ca>

    "Lift long enough and I believe arrogance is replaced by
    humility and fear by courage and selfishness by generosity
    and rudeness by compassion and caring."
        -- Dave Draper






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