Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 16:48:50 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" <nikolas.britton@gmail.com> To: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, ed@fxq.nl Subject: Re: Do we need this junk? Message-ID: <ef10de9a0704061448q5198995dv4d38bd57aca897f8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20070406.151901.-1844003065.imp@bsdimp.com> References: <20070406153500.GE6950@hoeg.nl> <46166A5E.3090009@samsco.org> <ef10de9a0704061136s2dc35c06w431d6d3f8c05dc1@mail.gmail.com> <20070406.151901.-1844003065.imp@bsdimp.com>
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On 4/6/07, M. Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote: > In message: <ef10de9a0704061136s2dc35c06w431d6d3f8c05dc1@mail.gmail.com> > "Nikolas Britton" <nikolas.britton@gmail.com> writes: > : Where is this coming from? I'm trying to debate some of the issues > : with FreeBSD and the only thing you've added to this thread is fuck > : off? Why? > > Because you have used language that is somewhat absolute and have not > done a market research on who actually uses FreeBSD. You have also > shown a fundamental lack of understanding of how modern machines are > put together as well, since you think all things ISA are obsolete > (they are not). > > As others have noted, there's a very large and vibrant embedded > FreeBSD community. This community makes real and meaningful > contributions to FreeBSD. Over the years, I've made thousands of > commits to the tree, funded in large part by the embedded companies > that I have worked for, including CardBus, PC Card, SD/MMC, > infrasturcutre changes, etc. > > Frankly, we'd rather tell a new, upstart to get bent than to tell > actual users and supports of FreeBSD to get bent by removing the > offending items from the tree. It really is a no-brainer. > New upstart? I have not been using FreeBSD for as long as you but I'm definitely not new here, I've been using and hacking on FreeBSD for over 5 years now and my professional experience with almost every operating system under the sun goes back much much farther. If the project leadership doesn't give a shit about the users then I guess I don't give a shit about project. Good bye. I'm sure Sun would mind new users.
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