Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 20:46:29 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper <youshi10@u.washington.edu> To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SoC Message-ID: <464D2195.3020309@u.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <20070515213026.GI1017@dwpc.dwlabs.ca> References: <20070513040651.GB1017@dwpc.dwlabs.ca> <4647F627.7020408@u.washington.edu> <20070514202922.GF1017@dwpc.dwlabs.ca> <4649426F.8050601@u.washington.edu> <1179214317.1791.38.camel@zoot.mintel.co.uk> <464969B3.3050306@u.washington.edu> <20070515213026.GI1017@dwpc.dwlabs.ca>
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Duane Whitty wrote: > On Tuesday, 15 May 2007 at 1:05:07 -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: >> Tom Evans wrote: >>> On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 22:17 -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: >>>> Ruby's nice, but it's built on Perl so I have suspicions on its overall >>>> usability / speed given my experience with Perl over the past 4 months >>>> daily for work :(.. Ruby's just the new big thing for programming >>>> languages, so everyone's into it. Kind of like how Java was compared to >>>> C/C++ a few years back. But once everything dies down people will >>>> realize that they'll still have to program in C/C++/Perl for real-world >>>> applications. >>>> >>>> Python seems better than Ruby from what I can see, but I really don't >>>> like the mandatory indentation thing. Ew.. >>>> >>> Rubies are better Perls. That's the only connection between the two. One >>> day, a Japanese programmer got fed up with Perl, and wrote a better >>> language (for varying meanings of better). >>> >>> Its not based or built on Perl in any respect. >>> >>> Python and Ruby both have the same targets; to speed development time >>> and increase programmer productivity. >> But one must make a Perl before one can make a Ruby. Maybe that was what >> I was trying to aim for. >> >> Ruby's nice, but it seems like it's going to be a bit passe in a few >> years like Java was for compilable / interpretable languages. >> >> -Garrett > > None of this matters > > > My only point is that if you need something quick to explore the format of > pkgdb.db or INDEX.db you are pretty well assured of finding a tool you > can work with; Perl, Python, or Ruby. If these aren't sufficient use C. > > The pkg_* tools are written in C so in C they will be modified; but no > harm in doing initial exploration and prototyping with something else. > > Let's stay focused! > > Duane Ok, finally dumped the full database. Will analyze closely later on tonight. Cheers, -Garrett PS If you installed ruby-bdb, simply running "make config" in the ports-mgmt/portupgrade directory and selecting ruby-bdb1 won't do. You have to go into databases/ruby-bdb, do make deinstall, then go to databases/ruby-bdb1 and do make install, or something similar.
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