Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:25:45 -0600 (MDT) From: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com> To: koitsu@freebsd.org Cc: LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, idiotbg@gmail.com, josh@tcbug.org Subject: Re: removing external usb hdd without unmounting causes reboot? Message-ID: <20070719.212545.-1384052884.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <20070719145847.GA36856@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <20070718170559.GA11915@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <20070719.084821.-202614780.imp@bsdimp.com> <20070719145847.GA36856@eos.sc1.parodius.com>
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In message: <20070719145847.GA36856@eos.sc1.parodius.com> Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@FreeBSD.org> writes: : On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 08:48:21AM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: : > In message: <20070718170559.GA11915@eos.sc1.parodius.com> : > Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@freebsd.org> writes: : > : If someone wants to work on this and needs devices/toys (thumb drives, : > : external enclosures + hard disks), let me know, I will be more than : > : happy to buy them the hardware needed. : > : > Willing to fund the work on it too? This is a volunteer project, and : > you have to motivate people to work on this. : : I'm one man with a single day job. I only make so much money a year, : most of which goes to rent and co-location bills. Remaining amounts : usually go to small hobby projects of mine, or donating money to folks : like phk@ to work on features that I'll benefit from (serial console : work comes to mind, ditto with BTX fixes). : : What I'm saying is that I can't afford (literally -- I don't have the : cash) to pay someone US$40/hour for programming efforts (especially when : I know it'd be a 8-12 week job), but I *can* afford to donate a few : hundred bucks getting someone hardware who has the know-how to fix or : test things much better than myself. Most of the time though I'm told : "I have the hardware I need -- it's a matter of finding the time!" A total fix would be a lot of effort. Some of it would be easy to incrementally adopt, while other parts would have ripples far and wide. : Besides working on ports (which I've been slacking on as of late), this : is how I try to help/contribute to the FreeBSD community. Yea. I understand that. : > The best one can do without massive buffer cache work is what firewire : > does: it has one attachment to handle all umass devices. When the : > device goes away, it pauses all operations to that device. If the : > device comes back, it resumes the I/O . If the device never comes : > back, then the I/O never finishes. : : This sounds good. It likely is the easiest 'bang for buck' solution. Warner
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