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Date:      Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:47:23 -0800
From:      Garrett Cooper <yanefbsd@gmail.com>
To:        Roman Divacky <rdivacky@freebsd.org>
Cc:        "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, Christoph Mallon <christoph.mallon@gmx.de>, Pegasus Mc Cleaft <ken@mthelicon.com>, Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>, Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Alternatives to gcc (was Re: gcc 4.3: when will it become standard compiler?)
Message-ID:  <0C40A289-8A7D-4492-A58B-914E566D40DE@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20090114152628.GA35621@freebsd.org>
References:  <20090113044111.134EC1CC0B@ptavv.es.net> <20090113222023.GA51810@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <496D1ED6.4090202@FreeBSD.org> <496DD37E.5010900@gmx.de> <58DAD35B6CCC476E89B9D02F51041E87@PegaPegII> <20090114134436.GA15158@freebsd.org> <20090114152524.GA23889@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20090114152628.GA35621@freebsd.org>

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On Jan 14, 2009, at 7:26, Roman Divacky <rdivacky@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 07:25:24AM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 02:44:36PM +0100, Roman Divacky wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 01:38:56PM -0000, Pegasus Mc Cleaft wrote:
>>>>> Doug Barton schrieb:
>>>>>> Pegasus Mc Cleaft wrote:
>>>>>>> At the moment you can already compile gcc 4.3 from the ports  
>>>>>>> tree,
>>>>>>> however things like binutils only seems to exist in the ports  
>>>>>>> as a cross
>>>>>>> compiling tool. How hard would it be to add binutils as a port  
>>>>>>> and make
>>>>>>> the gcc 4.x ports dependent on it? This way you can install  
>>>>>>> gcc 4.3 with
>>>>>>> the assembler and linker that play nice together during the  
>>>>>>> build? At
>>>>>>> the moment, I have had to make binutils from a gnu downloaded  
>>>>>>> source and
>>>>>>> then make gcc 4.3 with a silly make, IE: make AS=/usr/local/ 
>>>>>>> bin/as
>>>>>>> ..........
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think this would be an excellent approach. I am not sure I  
>>>>>> agree
>>>>>> with the idea that we _must_ have a compiler toolchain in the  
>>>>>> base but
>>>>>> it should definitely be possible to "replace" the toolchain in  
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> base with one from ports with a minimum of hassle.
>>>>
>>>>   I'm not sure I like the idea of not having _a_ compiler in the  
>>>> base. I'm
>>>> not really sure how that would work when you wanted to update and  
>>>> build the
>>>> sources. I suppose you would need to install a binary port of the  
>>>> compiler
>>>> (et. all) before you could build a more recent tool-chain.
>>>>
>>>>   Perhapse another option....
>>>>
>>>>   If gcc 4.2 && buildtools 2.15 is the end of the road for what  
>>>> BSD is
>>>
>>> has anyone actually LOOKED? I think the binutils are still under  
>>> gplv2
>>>
>>> at least this is what their root COPYRIGHT file says
>>>
>>> http://sourceware.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/COPYING?cvsroot=src
>>>
>>
>> It's not true.
>>
>> http://sourceware.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/gas/?cvsroot=src
>>
>> See COPYING.
>
> so something is GPLv3 and something is still GPLv2.... too bad gas
> falls into the v3 category :(

A number of gnu stuff isn't straightforward when it comes to  
licensing. Take gcc for instance: it's actually gpl v2 and v3, but it  
all varies based on what file you look at.

I'm just amazed glibc isn't gplv3 yet.

-Garrett



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