Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:27:51 +0000 From: Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.org> To: obrien@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.org>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Noisy make -j output Message-ID: <497CE767.3080109@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20090125203751.GA89522@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <497B3B40.3040306@FreeBSD.org> <20090125203751.GA89522@dragon.NUXI.org>
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David O'Brien wrote: > On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 04:01:04PM +0000, Kris Kennaway wrote: >> After a fresh buildworld on a system last built in November: >> hydra2# make buildworld -j8 -s >> --- upgrade_checks --- >> --- make --- >> [...] >> >> Why the extra-spammy output now? > > It's the intended operation of pmake/bmake from 4.4BSD. One reason I > believe we haven't trusted 'make -j' in the past is it can be very hard > to unwind the output when there is a build error. It turns out this is > because dg in the past neutered them (presumably he didn't understand > their value). After having used a bmake with the stock behavior I've > seen how valuable the markers are. I consider the change to be exposing debug-level information that is too noisy to be on by default. Also I'm concerned that you've broken things that expect 'make -s' to actually be silent. Kris
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