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Date:      Sat, 21 Mar 2009 00:12:15 -0500
From:      Robert Noland <rnoland@FreeBSD.org>
To:        David Wolfskill <david@catwhisker.org>
Cc:        x11@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Anyone have an xorg.conf to share for an nVidia NV17 [GeForce4 440 Go]
Message-ID:  <1237612335.1758.12.camel@balrog.2hip.net>
In-Reply-To: <20090321045253.GF77783@albert.catwhisker.org>
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On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 21:52 -0700, David Wolfskill wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:29:05PM -0500, Robert Noland wrote:
> > ...
> > So, looking at the log, at least some of your drivers are out of date
> > and not built against the current server.  Probably because they are
> > either dead drivers, or not longer build.
>=20
> Hmm... how might one know that a given driver is out of date?  As long
> as I can do so without loss of functionality, I'll happily reduce the
> number of installed ports....  :-}
>=20
> > Start by removing the cyrix, imstt and nsc drivers and see if configure
> > will run then.
>=20
> Aye; it did; thanks!
>=20
> > With current ports, the nv driver should dtrt.  FWIW,
>=20
> I figured it would be adequate for my purposes....
>=20
> > the only video drivers that you probably need are nv and possibly vesa.
>=20
> Right.  The others would have been automagically installed from
> installing the x11/xorg meta-port with minimal changes from the default
> options.
>=20
> I'm trying to be at least reasonable about keeping things up-to-date;
> how might I take appropriate evasive action to reduce the probability of
> a recurrence of this sort of thing?
>=20
> Thanks again -- being stuck with a handful of vtys was crampiing my
> style....  :-}

So, I expect that what happenned was that those drivers were part of the
meta port in the past and were installed.  Since then, they have fallen
(more) into disarray and been removed from the meta port.  If you have
an xorg.conf, then it only loads the requested driver and everything is
fine.  If you do -configure it tries to load up everything it can find
and when the old drivers failed to load due to ABI breakage, it just
bailed out.  I'm not sure what is the best way to deal with that wrt the
meta port.  It is convenient to just install the meta port and have most
cards supported, the drivers are generally small and build fairly
quickly, but when they go stale...  Basically, if it isn't ati/radeonhd
or intel it isn't getting a tremendous amount of love right now...  via
has been superseded by openchrome which is getting active development.
I haven't really kept up with nv, but nouveau is getting active
development and may replace nv at some point.  Most of the other drivers
only get attention if something breaks and someone complains loudly...

robert.

> Peace,
> david
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Robert Noland <rnoland@FreeBSD.org>
FreeBSD

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