Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 20:03:50 -0700 From: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> To: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: ziz a dumb question? Message-ID: <20100501030350.GB46985@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20100501041913.81a34394.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20100501015705.GA46858@thought.org> <20100501041913.81a34394.freebsd@edvax.de>
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On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 04:19:13AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 18:57:08 -0700, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote: > > i've never been anything near the extreme-green movement. i > > figured that newer computers/cpus/etc would be more efficient > > than what came before. > > Oh, you mean that a "modern" desktop PC consumes as much power > as my old AS/400e with 10 hard disk drives - as loud a a common > PC, 2 times as big and 4 times as heavy? :-) > Yeah, gee-whiz :) > > > > right now, everybody is > > racing for efficiency. not here yet. > > I would say "racing for efficiency" will start if people do > recognize that in many settings, networked terminals are a > much better solution than one full-featured "modern" PC per > desk. At the moment, industry is just trying to sell "energy > efficiency" to those who are interested in it, but they get > the same crap as anybody else, but more expensive. :-) > i've thought about this for at Least ten years.... why not have 4 CRT's or xterminals hanging off one very beefy machine? but do they have anything with graphics and keyboard + mouse that can work via one USB port/jack? i'm sure my wasted cycles could be put to very good use. but it would mean haning off a second display/kybd/mouse. the ARM/A-9 chip looks great. its a RISC chip that is super efficient. gang four A9's in one package:: low power and at least 2GHZ .... the only drawback is that the a9 is only 32bits. So we cannot try to calcale the 7th root of infinity, :-) i mean, come-on-people, get real. 4G of ram ought to be Plenty!! > > > > what i'm > > wondering is:: how good is this "PC-BSD" at being a server? i > > mean, if it's good at being a toy [to listen to A/V STreams and > > other less-nerdy things], it probably can't be that solid on > > handling DNS ... at least not as well as FreeBSD. > > Basically, it's still FreeBSD "under the hood", so you can > run the basic services. Of course, you will have to install > them in either of the "non-supported" ways (i. e. PBI packages > usually won't be available for server-centered applications), > via pkg_add or by ports. > > Because GUI operations vs. DNS workload won't be an issue > in terms of resource consumption, you probably will be lucky. > Serving web pages and maybe streams, and other "server stuff" > will be possible, too. PC-BSD performs acceptably even under > load. > i'm trying to// or i'm =thinking about= getting rid of my pfSense machine. i used ifp for *yesrs* with no breakins. So NOBODY got into my poetry!! > > > > If anybody > > onlist has messed around with PC-BSD for *server* stuff, i'd be > > very interested in hearing about it. > > In any case, check ports and firewall. PC-BSD intends to make > the experience to the user as comfortable as possible. This, > sadly, means to abandon well intended means of security. So > there may (!) be something that makes your machine interesting > for attackers - allthough you don't participate in 99.998% of > market share. :-) according to my /var/log/<foo>.log files, the only crackins were from kiddie-scripters. i squashed them. > > I've tested PC-BSD on some occiassions, but I never really > used it for anything that would allow me to call it a server, > so I can't be more specific. > > thanks for your POV. any others? it may be that using PC-BSD would mean that pfSense would be wise. i'm just tired of having to use Linux for fun stuff, and it frequently breaks, and relying on FreeBSD too. > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel
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