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Date:      Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:59:45 -0800
From:      Chuck Swiger <cswiger@mac.com>
To:        Bruce Evans <brde@optusnet.com.au>
Cc:        freebsd-net <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>
Subject:   [OT] Re: igb watchdog timeouts
Message-ID:  <83F77456-6626-4315-B4FB-272569EE1946@mac.com>
In-Reply-To: <20110114204810.Y28741@besplex.bde.org>
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On Jan 14, 2011, at 2:12 AM, Bruce Evans wrote:
>> On a good day, my MUA sends "Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed" and should contain line breaks following the 80-character-per-line Usenet conventions, which modern MUAs might well reassemble based upon the user's window size. If it is being re-interpreted after transmission by MTAs, mailing-list MIME filters, or similar, well, that lies beyond my control.
> 
> Strangely, my MUA is sending format=flowed, etc., but mails received
> from you don't have it.  So when I reply to you and Cc me, then there
> are enough newlines in the now-doubly-quoted original in the Cc.

You're right.  After checking, it seems like Mail.app stopped emitting format=flowed around 10.6.3, and $REALJOB requirements mean I'm stuck using it as I need to deal with localized text from many languages frequently. [1]

> format=flowed apparently even fixes up the quotes, so there are enough
> quotes too.  But I don't like this.  Letting the MUA change the format
> will mangle source code, diffs and some types of quotes.


Well, source code, diffs, and such could be attached as MIME enclosures, which will insulate them from quote-based reformatting.  Unfortunately, unless one is careful with the content-types used, the FreeBSD mailing list software might decide to strip them....

Regards,
-- 
-Chuck

[1]: Mozilla's Thunderbird does fine for the Latin-1 families & UTF-8 encodings, but it doesn't handle UTF-16 text or attachments (ja-JP / ISO-2022-JP or zh-CN & zh-TW in Big5 or GBK) correctly.




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