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Date:      Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:26:09 -0800
From:      Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Jason Helfman <jhelfman@e-e.com>
Cc:        Scot Hetzel <swhetzel@gmail.com>, marcus@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD ports list <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: What use is WWWDIR_REL?
Message-ID:  <4F35B5A1.6000309@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20120211001720.GA97176@dormouse.experts-exchange.com>
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On 02/10/2012 16:17, Jason Helfman wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 04:13:32PM -0800, Doug Barton thus spake:
>> On 02/08/2012 20:18, Scot Hetzel wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>>> Following up to my previous post about "Why isn't WWWDIR_REL in the
>>>> default PLIST_SUB I broke open bsd.port.mk and found this:
>>>>
>>>> PLIST_SUB+=     DOCSDIR="${DOCSDIR_REL}" \
>>>>                EXAMPLESDIR="${EXAMPLESDIR_REL}" \
>>>>                DATADIR="${DATADIR_REL}" \
>>>>                WWWDIR="${WWWDIR_REL}" \        *******!!!!????!!!****
>>>>                ETCDIR="${ETCDIR_REL}"
>>>>
>>>> So this leads me to many questions, the first and most obvious of which
>>>> is, what the heck good is WWWDIR_REL in the first place? I searched the
>>>> ports tree and found 1,063 uses of it (outside of bpm itself). 1,035 of
>>>> them are literals in a pkg-plist, which at this point looks completely
>>>> useless. Of the 28 others 13 of them are PLIST_SUB related, which
>>>> apparently can also be removed. Most of the other 15 look like
>>>> mistakes,
>>>> and all of them look like they can be fixed with little difficulty.
>>>>
>>> Those 1035 ports that are using WWWDIR_REL in their pkg-plist are
>>> wrong and should be changed to use WWWDIR. Since PLIST_SUB will
>>> automatically replace %%WWWDIR%% with ${WWWDIR_REL} in the pkg-plist.
>>
>> Ok, glad we're in agreement on that.
>>
>>>> So I'd like to propose the attached, not to be included until the
>>>> existing uses of WWWDIR_REL are updated of course. Can anyone tell me
>>>> why this would be a bad idea? I think being able to just use %%WWWDIR%%
>>>> in the plist would be a lot less confusing.
>>>>
>>> I believe the original purpose of the *_REL variables in bsd.port.mk
>>> was to make maintaining bsd.port.mk easier.
>>
>> Clearly I'm missing something then, because I don't see how they
>> accomplish anything useful. Perhaps you can enlighten me? There is
>> nothing in the CVS log that even mentions them, never mind why they were
>> added (bad portmgr, no cookie!).
>>
>>
>> Doug
>>
> Interesting bit here:

Have you actually read the thread at all? I understand how they get
expanded, my point is that the *_REL variables are (apparently) only
useful in a plist, and they are not needed there because of how the
default PLIST_SUB is expanded. I've already pasted that bit into this
thread twice, I'm not going to do it again. :)


Doug

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