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Date:      Thu, 23 Jan 2014 14:15:02 -0800
From:      Garrett Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>
To:        "Simon J. Gerraty" <sjg@juniper.net>
Cc:        "freebsd-testing@freebsd.org" <freebsd-testing@freebsd.org>, brooks@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Makefile.inc1.patch
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On Jan 23, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Simon J. Gerraty <sjg@juniper.net> wrote:

>>> For options.mk I allow MK_* to already be set and WITHOUT_* to take
>>> precedence over WITH_*.  I also allow makefiles to have their own =3D
>> lists
>>> of options - separate the policy from the mechanism.
>>=20
>> Would that fix this case though?
>=20
> I imagine it would make fixing it easier.
>=20
>>> I guess you could even allow a per-knob setting as to which takes
>>> precedence.=3D20
>>=20
>> You mean override the default so WITH_* overrides WITHOUT_*?
>=20
> Yes - I expect that would be rare, but worth it for completness.
> The important thing is a simple precidence rule.
>=20
>>> By simply allowing WITHOUT_* to overrule WITH_*, the Makefile.inc1 =3D=

>> usage
>>> would be greatly simplified.
>>=20
>> Maybe=3D85 the -DNO_* logic is a bit messy=3D85
>=20
> NO_* always wins, it allows a makefile to say "I don't care what you
> want I cannot do that".
>=20
> Most places you see -DNO_* used could be -DWITHOUT_* if the semantics
> were not broken as previously described.
> NO_* should be mainly for makefiles to set - like NO_MAN=3D (i don't =
got
> no man page man)
>=20
>> Curious to see what you have in mind :)..
>=20
> Look at contrib/bmake/Makefile

Ok, I=92ll definitely look at that.

Alan,

As far as fixing your issue is concerned though, has a fix already been =
committed or does one still need to be committed? If the latter, does =
this suffice for today =97 with the intent that it will get ripped out =
in favor of something cleaner in the [near] future?

Thanks!
-Garrett=



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