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Date:      Thu, 22 May 2014 14:00:50 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        John Hay <jhay@meraka.org.za>
Cc:        freebsd-arm <freebsd-arm@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: MK_ARM_EABI to retire in current
Message-ID:  <FB5E37CC-627A-4813-9CBC-1D1121CA6923@bsdimp.com>
In-Reply-To: <20140522155210.GA57720@zibbi.meraka.csir.co.za>
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On May 22, 2014, at 9:52 AM, John Hay <jhay@meraka.org.za> wrote:

> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 08:07:34AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
>>=20
>> On May 22, 2014, at 3:05 AM, John Hay <jhay@meraka.org.za> wrote:
>>=20
>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 02:01:42PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> On May 21, 2014, at 1:28 PM, John Hay <jhay@meraka.org.za> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>>> On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 09:50:21AM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>>>>>> isn't eabi on the xscale still broken?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> It might still be broken. But there are more brokenness than that. =
:-(
>>>>> By defining WITHOUT_ARM_EABI=3Dyes in src.conf, I can get an AVILA =
kernel
>>>>> built that boots with src from head at around mid December. Latest =
10
>>>>> and head just give no output, with or without WITHOUT_ARM_EABI =
defined.
>>>>=20
>>>> Does the same thing happen with make.conf instead of src.conf?
>>>=20
>>> Yes, I have tried both 10 and head with WITHOUT_ARM_EABI=3Dyes and =
no
>>> output after go in redboot. My compile lines look like this:
>>>=20
>>> make TARGET_ARCH=3Darmeb TARGET_CPUTYPE=3Dxscale toolchain
>>> make TARGET=3Darm TARGET_ARCH=3Darmeb buildkernel KERNCONF=3DAVILA =
DESTDIR=3D/arm/
>>>=20
>>> And then in redboot "load -b 0x200000 kernel" to load it with tftp. =
And
>>> then "go".
>>>=20
>>> The "no output" happened somewhere between mid December and =
beginning
>>> of Feb. I determined that before getting side tracked. I'll see in =
the
>>> next day or two if I can narrow that down.
>>>=20
>>> If someone have patches so that WITHOUT_ARM_EABI=3Dyes is not needed
>>> anymore, I'll test that too.
>>=20
>> This is with gcc, not clang, right?
>=20
> The default that the tree will do for the above commands. I did not =
force
> it one way or the other. The kernels that did boot, reported gcc 4.2.1

OK. Just making sure.

Warner


>> Warner
>>=20
>>=20
>>> John
>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Warner
>>>>=20
>>>>> John
>>>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> -a
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> On 19 May 2014 08:40, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> MK_ARM_EABI is going to die in current. It is the default for =
all platforms currently. I???m eliminating it as a build option. It must =
die because it invisibly (to uname) effects the ABI.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> So, to that end, I see two options:
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> (1) Retire and remove oabi support.
>>>>>>> (2) Retain oabi support, but change its name to armo and armoeb.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> The rough consensus of arm developers I???ve polled now, and in =
the past, is that we just let oabi support die now that EABI support is =
working for everybody.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> Before I pull the trigger on this, however, I must ask if =
anybody has a problem with my doing option (1), and if so, what keeps =
you using oabi.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> Comments?
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> Warner
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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