Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 17:58:46 +0200 From: Milan Obuch <freebsd-ports@dino.sk> To: Kurt Jaeger <lists@opsec.eu> Cc: Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail/courier build failures on newer FreeBSD versions Message-ID: <20140526175846.3af8aa29@zeta.dino.sk> In-Reply-To: <20140526154737.GV2341@home.opsec.eu> References: <20140525213854.0d952d1d@zeta.dino.sk> <20140525201008.GQ2341@home.opsec.eu> <20140525222726.47261ae9@zeta.dino.sk> <20140525204314.GR2341@home.opsec.eu> <20140525225151.227ea602@zeta.dino.sk> <20140525211955.GT2341@home.opsec.eu> <53829913.1050400@gmx.de> <20140526154737.GV2341@home.opsec.eu>
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On Mon, 26 May 2014 17:47:37 +0200 Kurt Jaeger <lists@opsec.eu> wrote: > Hi! > > > >>> Do you also plan to upgrade to 0.73. ? With 0.65 we're badly > > >>> behind the times, aren't we ? > > > > > >> Yes, this upgrade is long due, but it has some issues too. > > > > > > What issues does 0.73.1 have ? Is there a list somewhere ? > > > > > > Frankly, courier looses more and more marketshare, as can be seen > > > on > > > > > > http://openemailsurvey.org > > > > Which features are available on courier which are not provided > > > by other MTAs ? > > > Kurt, we're not asking porters to justify why a particular software > > is ported. > > I'm sorry if my mail was seen as too inquisitorial. I'm asking because > I manage quite a few mailservers and it's becoming more and more > like telco-equipment: lots of features which make them very > difficult to compare. Like DANE, which currently seems to be > a postfix-exclusive feature. > I did not take it that way. Sometimes I would like too why somebody choose something, so I just answered... and if other questions are asked, they will be answered, if I know the answers that is. > Milan provided a very good reason for courier: courier is fully > integrated. I was not aware of that. > > > We also don't normally question the usefulness of a port on its > > own or based on surveys either. So can we please stop this useless > > distraction and stop killing the porter's motivation, and instead > > see to get the necessary help furnished so the port gets back into > > good shape? > > Sorry for that, I do not try to kill the motivation. Because > the time/change difference between the 0.65.3 and 0.73.1 is so large > (3 years, and approx. 150K diff), I'm interested in learning > why it's not easy to update. > In my eyes question like this is not that bad. It is true that courier mail suite is not that popular, so there is not so big pressure to hunt for upgrades, when it just works for me the way it is :) sort of laziness, you know... Regards, Milan
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