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Date:      Mon, 15 Dec 2014 06:00:59 -0700 (MST)
From:      Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>
To:        sthaug@nethelp.no
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, ronald-lists@klop.ws
Subject:   Re: BIND chroot environment in 10-RELEASE...gone?
Message-ID:  <alpine.BSF.2.11.1412150556410.69066@wonkity.com>
In-Reply-To: <20141215.123405.74723741.sthaug@nethelp.no>
References:  <20131203.223612.74719903.sthaug@nethelp.no> <20141215.082038.41648681.sthaug@nethelp.no> <op.xqwlh6utkndu52@ronaldradial.radialsg.local> <20141215.123405.74723741.sthaug@nethelp.no>

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On Mon, 15 Dec 2014, sthaug@nethelp.no wrote:

>>> <rant>
>>> Removing the changeroot environment and symlinking logic is a net
>>> disservice to the FreeBSD community, and disincentive to use FreeBSD.
>>> </rant>
>>>
>>> Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no
>>
>> Isn't this reasoning a bit flawed? Something hurt you so you state it is
>> hurting a whole community.
>>
>> I, for one, am glad the security updates of the Bind software are now
>> better maintainable across all FreeBSD version.
>
> I don't see the connection between removing BIND from the base system
> (I agree that this makes BIND updates better maintainable) and the
> complete removal of the changeroot/symlink functionality.
>
>> NB: using a jail might give an easier to maintain secure environment for
>> bind than a chroot. With more restrictions to the process also.
>
> Absolutely agree. However, that requires time to learn jails properly,
> which I don't have right now.

Here is a start:

https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/jails-ezjail.html#jails-ezjail-example-bind




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