Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 18:27:09 -0700 From: Donald Wilde <dwilde1@gmail.com> To: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: freebsd-questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Minimal skills Message-ID: <CAEC7392fq72A5p-YyfzSEH-zarC_ZqWX2RnFCOuCpHd%2B003uWg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20200605030925.e4194867.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <CY4PR19MB0104A2C03F4D66A1DA251A23F9880@CY4PR19MB0104.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> <20200604005859.ca438474.freebsd@edvax.de> <CY4PR19MB0104C290121BF756D57B2DDBF9880@CY4PR19MB0104.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> <20200604020051.0c02472d.freebsd@edvax.de> <CY4PR19MB0104DD86F8FE6446AD1BF327F9890@CY4PR19MB0104.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> <20200604074134.89eb6518.freebsd@edvax.de> <CY4PR19MB0104DC7541A2154B5C435EA7F9890@CY4PR19MB0104.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> <CY4PR19MB01041DACEFFEF08ADB096BC3F9890@CY4PR19MB0104.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> <CY4PR19MB0104A0D479219642A1853152F9890@CY4PR19MB0104.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> <CAEC7392EgG13-nwQw32wY41PRgeTjjE%2BMSW3Hc5Q1xaN2U8_DA@mail.gmail.com> <20200605024331.51b34130.freebsd@edvax.de> <CAEC7392XgT-Ewmb2CrC28N2ts42UHMsonCQge0jBAUacSHmr1A@mail.gmail.com> <20200605030925.e4194867.freebsd@edvax.de>
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On 6/4/20, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 17:54:15 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote:
>> On 6/4/20, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote:
>> > On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 17:08:01 -0700, Donald Wilde wrote:
>> >> If it's an Android phone, whatever MUA you have on it should also have
>> >> such setting switches.
>> >
>> > Emailing on a smartphone is a terrible experience. Real people
>> > use a real computer for real stuff. :-)
>>
>> I'm busily re-designing smartphones in my 'spare' cycles because they
>> barely fit my needs for a _phone_!
>
> Smartphones are not _designed_ to be used for phone calls. :-)
ROFL VVH! Imagine that! What are they, status symbols of the poor and clueless?
>
>
>
>> >> What I'd suggest that you do is to go to gmail.com and create
>> >> brandon.helsey@gmail.com and subscribe that address to your
>> >> open-source mailing list collection. The GMail client can be accessed
>> >> from any (lynx, anyone? Haven't tested THAT one :) ) web browser, so
>> >> you can use this on your FreeBSD machine or even a public library
>> >> computer.
>> >
>> > Which, from a security point of view, is one of the worst things
>>
>> Point taken. As you can see, 'easy' has overtaken 'secure' for me for
>> some time. As yet, my GMail hasn't been hacked and it does a pretty
>> good job of stomping spam, especially from actual live politicians.
>> ;-)
[snip]
My Yahoo account has been hacked. I suppose it'll eventually happen to
GMail as well. Well, I'll have plenty of servers to replace it with
soon enough.
>
>
>> >> The downside to GMail is that it is more difficult to categorize
>> >> e-mails, but IIRC it can be done.
>> >
>> > In my opinion, it's just added complexity to something as simple
>> > as email. Adding Google's Gmail to the mix does not lead to any
>> > benefits, I'd say. Probably "hotmail.com" already offers some
>> > web mailer that could be used. But as there is IMAP confirmed,
>> > why not use that with a normal mailing program on a real computer?
>> > Anything is better than trying to do this on a smartphone, without
>> > real success... :-)
>> >
>>
>> Actually, I do like to have folders of e-mails that I stash, but
>> that's a personal preference.
>
> Hey, I do the same with Sylpheed - the "sidebar" on the left
> contains a sorting hierarchy. Such hierarchies can be maintained
> automatically by filters acting to keywords, or manually by
> mouse drag & drop. Thunderbird also has this feature, making
> it easy to manage IMAP accounts using your local interface and
> not having to worry about Internet connection - actions will be
> taken at synchronization time that you can decide on yourself
> ("offline mode").
>> It sounds like the MBox format can do
>> that, so I'll make a transition myself in some near future.
>
> Both mbox and MailDir can be used for hierarchical storage.
> The main difference is that in mbox, you have _one_ file per
> mailbox, which can lead to big files; in MailDir, you have
> one file per message, which can lead to many files. Depending
> on filesystem parameters, one or the other can slow down
> message retrieval when you have millions of messages.
Thanks for the edu experience, Polytropon! <(_ _)> :D
Nothing can slow things down as much as Windows 10 does, out of the
box. I have an i7 4-core tower with 16GB of DDR4 and it's a slug that
I am always worried will do something Very Stupid(TM by MS) to me,
like reformatting my "damaged" USB key without asking.
> As I mentioned, the storage mechamism doesn't actually matter
> as in the end, it all looks the same to the user:
>
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Dang, P! PUNCH CARDS??? <wink>
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Don Wilde
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