Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2021 11:18:00 +0000 (UTC) From: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> To: Michael Gmelin <freebsd@grem.de> Cc: Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>, freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: What happen to mailing list archives? Message-ID: <41e265dd-d9b5-48d5-adc5-099a3a8d93bb@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20210608131526.36b494ad@bsd64.grem.de> References: <0E72BE08-BC5A-41F8-8048-C5E8ADE947AF@yahoo.com> <C833512F-09A0-4245-8DEE-8AE78E327627@yahoo.com> <20210607203520.ez47pfjey6evr65w@aniel.nours.eu> <20210608131526.36b494ad@bsd64.grem.de>
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8 juin 2021 13:15:50 Michael Gmelin <freebsd@grem.de>: > > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 22:35:20 +0200 > Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 07, 2021 at 12:30:46AM -0700, Mark Millard wrote: >>> On 2021-Jun-6, at 13:25, Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> =C2=A0 >>>> Baptiste Daroussin <bapt_at_FreeBSD.org> wrote on >>>> Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2021 10:53:49 +0200 : >>>> =C2=A0 >>>>> What has happended: >>>>> plan A: we migrated everything off mailman/pipermail seamlessly >>>>> with redirection and so on. We patched the new archiver to >>>>> produce the same file names has pipermail >>>>> >>>>> Plan A worked fine up to a limit, there was plenty of hand >>>>> edition in the past, we we decided to move to plan B which is >>>>> what is happening now. >>>>> >>>>> Plan B: We keep a frozen version of the archives up to the >>>>> migration date under the pipermail directory and have the new >>>>> archives created in the archives directory. >>>>> >>>>> All the pipermail archives have been restored as they were. The >>>>> new archives receives in their index a new link to point people >>>>> to the pipermails archive if looking for older archives. >>>>> >>>>> this has been done a couple of hours ago (before Steve emails) >>>>> during a window, of ~ 10 hours, the mailing lists which slow >>>>> traffic aka the one which didn't received any email since the >>>>> migration ended up with an empty "archives" directory (aka a >>>>> 404), a file with explanation and redirection to pipermail has >>>>> been installed there. >>>>> >>>>> Some work is still needed for the mailing lists which has been >>>>> transformed as readonly, this will be done in the next couple of >>>>> days=C2=A0 >>>> >>>> It is too bad that a reference to a "no examples yet" >>>> month, such as, (at the time I write this): >>>> >>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-toolchain/2021-June/date.ht= ml >>>> >>>> does not show at least (Date view specific example): >>>> >>>> =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 Other periods:[ Previous, Date view ] [ List of Folde= rs >>>> ] >>>> =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 Other: [ Actives mailing lists ] [ Archives from >>>> mailman's time ] >>>> >>>> when there are prior months available in >>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/ or show at least just: >>>> >>>> =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 Other: [ Actives mailing lists ] [ Archives from >>>> mailman's time ] >>>> >>>> when no prior months are available there. >>>> =C2=A0 >>> >>> Looks like there are missing months. >>> >>> Using freebsd-hackers as an example: >>> >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/index.html >>> shows the oldest month being "May 2021". >>> >>> But . . . >>> >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/ >>> shows the most recent month being "September 2020". >>> >>> So: 2020-Oct through 2021-Apr are completely missing. >>> >>> Then, going for more detail for 2020-Sep and 2021-May . . . >>> >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/2021-May/date.html >>> shows "Starting Tue May 18 2021 - 21:07:44 UTC". >>> >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2020-September/date= .html >>> shows "Ending: Tue Sep 15 14:12:20 UTC 2020". >>> >>> So there are about 2 more half-months missing. >>> >>> Some other lists have other date ranges, some similar, >>> some not.=C2=A0 >> >> This missing month are being populated right now > > Will historic links still work though (so that old references work and > current google results are ok)? > > Just stumbled over this one: > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-jail/2017-March/003360.html > Old reference yes, not the one that lived a couple of weeks like this one Bapt
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