Date: Fri, 06 May 2022 15:23:05 +0200 From: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com> To: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Philip Paeps <philip@FreeBSD.org>, postmaster@FreeBSD.org, ctm-users@FreeBSD.org, Stephen Montgomery-Smith <montgomerysmithstephen@gmail.com> Subject: Re: removal of ctm delta mail lists on @freebsd.org Message-ID: <202205061323.246DN5Bo045538@fire.js.berklix.net> In-Reply-To: Your message "Thu, 05 May 2022 14:06:18 %2B0200." <20220505120618.2m7kkbaw2cl3vhi4@aniel.nours.eu>
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Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Thu, May 05, 2022 at 01:46:47PM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Hi Philip > > cc ctm-users@ > > > > Philip Paeps wrote: > > > On 2022-05-05 17:53:55 (+0800), Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > > Reminder to postmaster@freebsd.org No reply received > > > > > > Your message arrived. I've not had time to check. > > > > OK > > > > > At first glance it > > > looks like those lists were never migrated from mailman to mlmmj and we > > > stopped generating mailman aliases a while back. > > > > > > >> If you @freebsd.org have deleted some or all of those lists, please > > > >> let me > > > >> know & I will delete your addresses from the aliases list > > > >> above, & I would also delete from http://www.berklix.org/ctm/#list > > > > > > I think that's fine. > > > > OK Deleted from web page & aliases & newaliases has been run. > > You postmaster@freebsd.org will no longer receive bouncing ctm deltas. > > Thank you, I sent an email a while ago to developers@ stating that ctm* mailing > lists has been decommissioned. Maybe developers@ is some alias ? Not listed on https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/ https://lists.freebsd.org/ > I planned to decommission other ctm-* mailing > lists, but I don't remember who asked me to keep ctm-users. > > > > > >> BTW if CTM lists dont show up on freebsd.org mailman proves nothing > > > >> either way, > > > >> as a long time back (way before freebsd.org started migration from > > > >> mailman to whatever), > > > >> the admins of mailman on freebsd.org made the ctm delta lists hidden, > > > >> but they still worked. > > > > > > As far as we're concerned, ctm died with cvs, two revision control > > > migrations ago. > > > > Wrong. Perhaps that mis conception was common & helped discourage > > CTM. In fact CTM ran fine with SVN for years. CTM is still generating > > on all streams that are bled across from git to legacy svn. > > > > Maybe later I or someone else will get time to revise the CTM > > generator scripts for git. > > > > > It's a lot cheaper to reject spam directed at its > > > corpse with "mailbox doesn't exist" at the gate on mx1 than to let the > > > message get as far as mlmmj and reject or bounce it there. > > > > Well you will now only get spam directed at those lists, no real > > mail fed from ctm delta gnerator scripts, so by all means pipe them > > at /dev/null or whatever. > > > > Only exceptions: > > ctm-users@ this discussion list to continue please > > > > ctm-announce@ > > that list is useless & should be closed (if not > > already) Stephen the chief ctm generator had no > > password to announce to it, &/or preferred to use > > ctm-users@ He has retired from ctm, I'm running the > > ctm generator, I too have no password to send > > announcements to ctm-announce@, so it's long been > > useless. > > Yes that was the plan, and you confirm ctm-announce should be decommissioned. Yes, ctm-announce@ can be decommissioned, thanks, ( It won't be needed unless there's a big increase in CTM usage, which won't happen unless I or someone else converts ctm scripts to use git instead of svn, & may well not be needed even then as most people prefer the live Pull model rather than Push deltas by mail . ) > To moderate, you don't need a password anymore. (Didn't know that, I've only run majordomo & mailman2, not mlmmj ) > but I need the name of the > moderators. In the mailman setup neither you, nor Stephen were listed in the > moderators, or not explicitly at least. > > So either I decommission ctm-announce@ or I set you both as moderators. Up to > you. Names from ctm-users@ Tue, 13 Apr 2021 cc'd Stephen Montgomery-Smith <montgomerysmithstephen@gmail.com> "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com> (in case you might prefer to first put ctm-announce@ on ice, then delete later) Cheers, -- Julian Stacey http://berklix.com/jhs/ http://stolenVotes.uk Arm Ukraine, kill Putin mass murderer causing global grain & fuel shortage.
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