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Date:      Tue, 6 Apr 2021 09:21:07 +0100
From:      Gerald de la Pascua <gerald@homes-on-line.com>
To:        Ted Hatfield <ted@io-tx.com>
Cc:        "Patrick M. Hausen" <hausen@punkt.de>, Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org>,  freebsd-stable stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Deprecating base system ftpd?
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+1 again from me too, keep it,

It seems a pointless change of something that it seems a reasonable number
of people are still using,  even if there are better tools now,

G


On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 8:16 PM Ted Hatfield <ted@io-tx.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 5 Apr 2021, Patrick M. Hausen wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> >> Am 03.04.2021 um 22:39 schrieb Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org>:
> >> I'm happy to make a port for it if anyone needs it. Comments?
> >
> > A bit late to the party, but my take is: please just don't.
> >
> > I absolutely freaked out when Apple removed the telnet and ftp clients
> > from Mac OS and I needed to reinstall them via MacPorts.
> >
> > People who manage any larger collection of networking gear *depend*
> > on these outdated but simple services. Client and server side alike.
> >
> > TFTP is not going away, neither is FTP. I'm dead serious. Remote media
> > via Supermicro IPMI in 2021? SMB1. Firmware updates for my UPS? FTP.
> > Scanner/printer/fax all-in-one thingy? Uploads received fax transmissions
> > via FTP. PBX? Uploads usage reports via FTP. This stuff is here to stay.
> > In local networks, of course.
> >
> > But still even on "the Internet", FTP is the most used method for
> customers
> > of static website hosting. You cannot teach these people what an SSH key
> is.
> > Just my experience, but backed by a load of customer interactions over
> more
> > than 20 years ...
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Patrick
> > --
> >
>
>
> Hear! Hear!
>
> Although I don't have any statistics to back this up this
> has been my experience as well.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Ted Hatfield
>
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