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Date:      Mon, 6 Dec 1999 13:05:24 +0100
From:      Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be>
To:        Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@uunet.co.za>
Cc:        obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, audit@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf files.i386 src/sys/kern kern_fork.c src/sys/libkern arc4random.c src/sys/sys libkern.h
Message-ID:  <v0422080bb4715569a745@[195.238.21.204]>
In-Reply-To: <28146.944480094@axl.noc.iafrica.com>
References:  <28146.944480094@axl.noc.iafrica.com>

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At 1:34 PM +0200 1999/12/6, Sheldon Hearn wrote:

>  One thing you're missing here is that CURRENT often _becomes_ STABLE
>  later. :-)

	Understood.  However, so long as it's -CURRENT, we can still make 
large changes, right?  ;-)


	Speaking of which, if 4.0 is going to hit feature freeze pretty 
soon, does this mean that -CURRENT will become version 5.0?  Will 
that happen automatically when 4.0 hits feature freeze, or are these 
two separate events?

>  However, I think I agree with you.  Perhaps a small POLA sacrifice for
>  the sake of a large security gain is cool.  I don't see a massive gain
>  for day-to-day stuff myself, but folks are talking like it's a large
>  gain.  Some of them are sensible folks. ;-)

	Well, perhaps this particular thing isn't that big.  This is one 
reason why I was so surprised to see people advocating that we don't 
change the default.

	However, if you collect all these "little" changes together, I 
think you arrive at something that is *huge*.  What I'm trying to do 
is advocate a policy that allows us to more quickly get closer to 
where we want to be.

>  PS: Damnit, I didn't realize that the message I replied to originally
>      was a cross-post.  Sorry.

	Damn.  Caught me, too.  I've removed the cross-post to -arch on 
this reply, and will let you have the last word on this subject on 
that list.  ;-)

-- 
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