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Date:      Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:32:00 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.org>
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com>
Cc:        Will Andrews <andrews@technologist.com>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Disabling inetd? 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0006261227060.95506-100000@freefall.freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <2962.962038079@localhost>

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On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

> I think it's a fairly evil idea.  People expect to be able to telnet
> into a box right after it's installed and they're not always on an
> insecure LAN which makes that a security issue.

On the other hand, I would postulate that a *lot* of people out there are
still using telnet/rlogin because they're lazy and haven't bothered to
install ssh, or don't realise it's bad. IMO, we need to give these people
a gentle kick into doing the right thing. Really, there's no reason why
you can't use ssh all the time even over "trusted" connections.

But there is a legitimate concern about people who *can't* ssh. IMO, the
best solution would be to allow people to simply turn telnetd (and ftpd)
back on in an obvious place in sysinstall.

Maybe I care enough about this to finally overcome my fear of sysinstall
and attempt it: we'll see.

> Even when it is an issue, our telnet supports SRA encryption now.

SRA isn't really a good example since it's not very secure.

Kris

--
In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate.
    -- Charles Forsythe <forsythe@alum.mit.edu>



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