Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 22:06:26 -0600 (CST) From: Avalon Books <avalon@advicom.net> To: Tony Overfield <tony@dell.com> Cc: FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Unable to newfs HD >10G with 3.0 Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9902052158260.25614-100000@vespucci.advicom.net> In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990204214937.00879b20@bugs.us.dell.com>
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On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Tony Overfield wrote: > Well, have you seen a "newer PC" that doesn't implement INT 13 > extensions, or are you confusing what I said with some other problem > that you've seen? I am well aware that the INT 13 spec has been essentially obsolete for a long time. And it appears that we are in agreement regarding its use (or rather, its lack of use considering the newer drive interfacing). > I was assuming the devices are not known to be defective. All bets are > off for any *standardized* behavior of broken devices. Also correct. Rest assued, we give our supplied eight kinds of hell when what they send us isn't up to spec. > Then they must have really bunged it up. I've not seen such a problem > with any of the drive suppliers we use. We stopped seeing most of the screwy drive firmware about six months ago, though we do still see such things very occasionally. > There's no excuse for busted drive firmware, but you can't blame the > "8.4 GB solution" which, as I said, works correctly if implemented > properly. Again, you and I are in agreement. > You implied that there are a bunch of nonstandard solutions to this > problem, but that isn't true. I don't consider a bug in a particular > drive's firmware to constitute a "nonstandard implementation." In my > mind, and probably yours too, it is simply broken and needs to be > replaced. Well, this is best clarified by saying that "non-standard" isn't really a dirty word anymore, espcially when manufactures and programmers are willing to hammer out the details to make it work. But in the beginning, it was a real chore to find combinations of drives and BIOS's that worked properly. Luckily, these problems continue to diminish in magnitude--and this is a good thing (for us hardware types, in particular). --R. Pelletier Sys Admin, House Galiagante We are a Micro$oft-free site To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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