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Date:      Sun, 07 Feb 1999 18:14:36 +1000
From:      Greg Black <gjb@comkey.com.au>
To:        Mark Ovens <marko@uk.radan.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Netscape 4.5 base64 encoding problem 
Message-ID:  <19990207081436.5959.qmail@alpha.comkey.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <36BB9B19.E697B2A@uk.radan.com> of Sat, 06 Feb 1999 01:30:01 GMT 
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> > Seriously, netscape is barely useful in its real role as a web
> > browser and is completely unsuited to taking on other tasks on
> > top of that.  Why "struggle" with it when Unix systems have a
> > plethora of *good* mail user agents, all of which allow you to
> > use the editor of your choice to do the serious part of the job
> > while providing a range of configurable options to control the
> > way the mail is handled.
> 
> I agree with you Greg, but can you offer a solution to this?
> 
> Out of necessity my machine triple boots W95/NT4/FreeBSD 2.2.8. I'm
> looking for a system whereby I can have common mail boxes/folders
> (stored on the FAT partition) that can be read/updated by a mailer in
> all 3 OS's. Someone pointed me to a Windows version of pine, I tried it,
> and was very impressed but it has the disadvantage that it can't handle
> POP3 mail very well. It can only deal with it online. What I need is to
> be able to d/l my mail to a local Inbox (in any of the 3 OS's) and read
> it off-line.
> 
> Netscape is the closest I've found to what I'm looking for, both Windows
> and Unix versions can read thesame mail files but the Unix version
> doesn't work too well with the Windows mail files (e.g. I can delete a
> message in FreeBSD, but in Windows it's still there :-( ).
> 
> Any suggestions?

Sure, but you may not like them.  First, nobody has to use
Microsoft OSes.  I choose not to use them, so I have no
suggestions that would accommodate the idea of running three
OSes on one machine.  One of the many reasons that I don't use
MS OSes is because that company wants to control how I do things
and I prefer to manage that for myself -- easy with Unix.

However, if there was some reason for me to have a box with W95
and/or NT4 on it, I would also have at least one FreeBSD box,
since an old 486-33 with 8 MB of RAM and 130 MB of disk will do
that just fine and those things are being thrown away by people
who need supercomputers to run the latest rubbish from Redmond.
I would use the 486 as my Internet gateway/firewall/etc and I'd
hook it up to my home LAN, to which all my other actual working
machines would be connected.  All of a sudden, it's trivial to
use Unix for everything that it should be used for ...

The rest of this solution is self-evident, so I won't bore
everybody with it here.

-- 
Greg Black <gjb@acm.org>


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