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Date:      Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:15:48 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Garrett Wollman <wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>
To:        Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
Cc:        net@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/release/sysinstall tcpip.c
Message-ID:  <199907300315.XAA15418@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <37A0F5C9.48F4A442@softweyr.com>
References:  <199907290226.WAA11541@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <Pine.BSF.4.10.9907290759080.18348-100000@jade.chc-chimes.com> <199907291434.KAA13492@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <37A0F5C9.48F4A442@softweyr.com>

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<<On Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:46:01 -0600, Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com> said:

> The VLANs are seperate networks which happen to share the same physical
> space, that's why they're called Virtual LANs.

What Xylan^H^H^H^H^HPa^H^HAlcatel happens to mean by ``VLAN'' is not
necessarily the same thing as other vendor means, is not necessarily
the same as the abstract model of IEEE 802.1Q.  Aren't standards
wonderful?

In the hardware we use, VLANs are a strict superset of (logical)
router interfaces -- that is to say, you can't route packets except
between two VLANs, and you can't comunicate between two VLANs except
through a router interface.

Billf was suggesting that every host be in its own VLAN, which of
course would mean that it could not talk to anything else without the
intercession of a router interface, which in turn requires an IP
subnet of at least minimum (/30) size, which would waste 75% of one's
address space.  I pointed out in response to Bill that, while our Lab
does in fact have oceans of globally-routeable address space, we could
not in practice give a /30 to each one of our four-thousand-someodd
machines because our switches support a maximum of 256 router
interfaces.

-GAWollman

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