Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 00:02:55 +0100 (CET) From: Marc Schneiders <marc@oldserver.demon.nl> To: Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com> Cc: Jonathon McKitrick <jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>, chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern/13644 Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10001272136270.11273-100000@propro.oldserver.demon.nl> In-Reply-To: <38908586.A6694C36@softweyr.com>
next in thread | previous in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Wes Peters wrote: > Jonathon McKitrick wrote: > > > > On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Marc Schneiders wrote: > > > > >I just happen to have bought an emacs book yesterday and read a bit. I > > >have two things that I cannot get clear for myself: > > > > > >1. Is it 'done' on BSD? The book gave me the idea that emacs is a real > > >GNU thing, so much 'hallelujah' in it. I don't mind that, but wouldn't > > >like to jump into learning it all, if it isn't really supported in > > >BSD-circles. And I want to be politically correct of course :-) > > > > I just realized what you are getting at. I was wondering the same > > thing. Without starting a flame war, if Stallman represents and > > advances the polar opposite of what the BSD license represents, can we > > still support his product so heartily? SOme people go to the extreme > > of not using programs like AbiWord simply because they are > > GPLed. Others say, 'if you like the program, use it!' Tough call. > > Different licenses are appropriate for different kinds of software. > I personally have no problems with the GPL for applications like Emacs, which > are an optional part of any system. Where I don't like the GPL is in the > operating system itself, which prevents its use in binary-only distributions > in embedded (or single-purpose) products. > Absolutely. Still after the semi-religious introductory chapter of the Emacs book I got, my first steps, after installing emacs20 from ports, brought little surprises but merely confirmed my presuppositions. At the bottom of the opening screen: "For information about the GNU Project and its goals, type C-h C-p." I shouldn't have done it. "Note file is write protected" (Same is true for BSD's /COPYRIGHT of course :-)) Reading a little of Stallmans Manifesto (for those who don't use Emacs, that's the text you get to see) and being trained as a theologian originally myself, I got rather interested in the history of this. Is there a *good* text somewhere about the project's history and / or Stallman in particular? I mean something not written by a believer nor by opponents? Something that answers questions like: Is he a genius? What sort of ethical backgrounds are involved? They look very like the ethics I was taught in the seventies in a liberal Catholic secondary school. I've always been fond of biographies of scholars, those that put them in perspective both as men as well as their ideas, achievemnets etc. I would love a good Stallman biography, I think. Does it exist? -- Marc Schneiders marc@venster.nl marc@oldserver.demon.nl propro 9:36pm up 12 days, 21:25, load average: 2.09 2.07 2.07 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?Pine.BSF.4.10.10001272136270.11273-100000>