Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 20:08:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Stan Osborne <stan@craigslist.org> To: Laurence Berland <stuyman@confusion.net> Cc: billf@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: advocacy/21238: poor performance; missed opportunities Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0009122001480.30467-100000@cnewmark.craigslist.net> In-Reply-To: <39BEEBED.84311DC7@confusion.net>
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Laurence, Thanks. I posted the problem to advocacy because it still is not clear to me if there is a bug or a user problem. The very first response I got was the pr was "closed". There was not attempt at an interaction to see how deep I could get into describing/documenting the problem. The exact installation and server are now running a Linux build that is about to go into production. I'm not sure what has happened to the FreeBSD installation and the test programs, but I will look into it. Stan On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Laurence Berland wrote: > > > Stan Osborne wrote: > > > > <snip> > > > > As for your claim that I did not provide specifices, do you need > > more information than my statement that we used FreeBSD 4.0? > > > > Yes, the developers need more than that. You cannot simply say "freebsd > version x is slow, please make it faster." To many people freebsd is as > fast or faster, so to figure out why your setup is slow is impossible > just by knowing you are using freebsd 4.0. > > I understand you cannot divulge your application, but if you could > disclose some sort of statistics on the sort of system calls it makes, > how it stores data, and the frequency of said calls in an expected run, > it would probably help many people. Also, the output of uname -a > couldn't hurt; your kernel config would be downright useful to some. > Please remember this is a volunteer effort and you cant expect people to > try ten billion combinations until they happen to hit yours. > > While I understand all these sort of details might not be the sort of > thing you'd like to post in a PR, you should phrase the post in a less > <asbestos>flame-oriented manner</asbestos>, and possibly offer this > information to anyone who is willing to work on the issue. > > There are plenty of trolls and zealots who will file PRs in hostile > tones with no content. If you don't want to be labeled as one by a > group of people with lots of work and little time, you might want to try > and be more positive and helpful in your emails, reports, etc. I'm > about to start my first year of college, and one of my goals is to start > going through and writing patches that will (hopefully) close PRs. If I > have to wander through post after post of useless flameage, I just might > get discouraged. I'm not saying you're a troll, I'm just saying you > need to act a little more professional, and maybe a bit more friendly. > And if you are just another troll, stop wasting everyone's time. > > Laurence Berland > Intern, Flooz.com > Northwestern '04 > stuyman@confusion.net > > > Stan > > > > On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 billf@FreeBSD.org wrote: > > > > > Synopsis: poor performance; missed opportunities > > > > > > State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > > > State-Changed-By: billf > > > State-Changed-When: Tue Sep 12 18:18:48 PDT 2000 > > > State-Changed-Why: > > > User fails to provide benchmarks, specifics, details, or > > > anything that would prove that he is not either clueless or a troll. > > > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=21238 > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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