Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 02:22:19 -0400 (EDT) From: William E Reid <wer@nomad.eng.cstone.net> To: Kal Torak <kaltorak@quake.com.au> Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Chasing the kiddies (still) (was: Named Keep crashing) Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0104050206380.48604-100000@nomad.eng.cstone.net> In-Reply-To: <3ACBF2FC.6D9AC4B3@quake.com.au>
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Well, I would like to say a few things. I am not a security expert. I have opinions about how things should be. We have updated bind on all our servers. That is what this whole discussion was about. I do think that one person can only do soo much. If you walk in to administer a network you never know what you are going to get. It took us a year to clean ours out. There are many things that can make things complicated even for a guru genius. I do agree ( with Scott? ) that maintaining a couple dozen machines is not hard. I am new to all this as well but love it and enjoy the problems and open discussions. I know everyone knows these things but since we are all talking about it. Don't run services that are not needed on a given box. Don't give your users shell accounts. If you hear of a complaint of some kid from your network causing trouble.... call their parents ya-da ya-da... Run tripwire and bask in FreeBSD administration ease and verbosity. I feel responsible whenever a user of mine has been caught being bad. Educate people. Educate kids and kiddies and spread the ethics. There are four machines that I have ever port scanned. All were under my control... Lastly don't join too many lists because occasionally a thread will come along that just takes up a lot of time. (But I enjoyed hearing everyone thinking out about this one). That's it. Nothing mind breaking.... all you guys were just tripping me out. -=Bill "Other Lame Thoughts follow" On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Kal Torak wrote: > Hmmm we better end this topic soon.. Its got rather long, and I can see > we are all going to agree that we disagree with each other :) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message
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