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Date:      Wed, 30 May 2001 11:28:48 +0200
From:      Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: IPFilter not free software?
Message-ID:  <20010530112848.H57297@lpt.ens.fr>
In-Reply-To: <3B14BA89.578D1D6@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 02:16:57AM -0700
References:  <20010525084905.A94861@lpt.ens.fr> <200105251841.LAA12009@usr05.primenet.com> <20010526102234.A51269@lpt.ens.fr> <3B14BA89.578D1D6@mindspring.com>

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Terry Lambert said on May 30, 2001 at 02:16:57:
> Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
> > > I'll be obliged.  Also if you can point at one "InterJet" or
> > > "IBM Web Connections" ad which mentions features specific to,
> > > or use of, FreeBSD.
> > 
> > I'm not familiar with these.
> 
> OK, so pick "FreeGate" or "Encanto" or "CacheFlow"; whatever.

Let's take a better known example: Microsoft.  In 1995 they used BSD
code for their networking in Windows 95.  They widely trumpeted the
networking features in their advertisements (the Internet was just
catching on, and Windows 3.1 didn't have any inbuilt internet
capability).  I don't recall any acknowledgement of UCB in Microsoft's
advertisements.  Was that, or was it not, a violation of the
advertising clause (which had not yet been removed at that time)?

My claim is that the advertising clause would have been violated more
often than honoured, even by well-meaning people.  Moreover, it was
inconsistent with the goal of allowing the maximum number of people to
use the software with the least amount of hassle.  Dropping it was a
good thing.

- Rahul.

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