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Date:      Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:56:41 +0200 (CEST)
From:      Søren Schmidt <sos@freebsd.dk>
To:        kc5vdj@yahoo.com
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Any ATAPI gurus out there?
Message-ID:  <200108220756.f7M7uuR85066@freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: <3B82F2F2.20901@yahoo.com> "from Jim Bryant at Aug 21, 2001 06:46:58 pm"

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It seems Jim Bryant wrote:

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> My friend, whom I am trying to teach unix [4.3-stable] was having some 
> problems on his secondary ATAPI bus.  A Creative CD-ROM was 
> the master, a HP burner was the slave.
> 
> The CD-ROM was having data dropouts, and was due to old age, no doubt.
> 
> Under Winblowz, the HP burner would only get 4x when it was able to burn.
> it's a 12x/8x/32x drive.
> 
> Under BSD, the CD-ROM would be usable, but would be prone to dropouts.
> 
> Under BSD, the HP burner came up with sense errors on boot, prior to a 
> proper probe reply.  It would hang for the duration of several timeouts 
> at the point before it got the probe.
> 
> Under BSD, the HP burner would cause a terminal wait state upon any access
> [such as a mount request, or a burncd command]. Red-button time...
> 
> This last Friday, he bought a new CD-ROM, and a new burner, as we both 
> thought both drives had issues.
> 
> He put his new drives in his box.  Everything works now, under Winblowz 
> AND BSD.
> 
> I put the the HP burner in MY box, and voila!  Nothing is wrong with it...
> 
> Questions:
> 
> 1). Can a flaky ATAPI "Master" cause a good ATAPI "Slave" to APPEAR 
> [however incorrectly] that the "Slave" has a problem?

Yes.

> 2). If #1 is true, then, why?

Crappy firmware, non-std or broken HW, those two reasons hold for
both ATAPI and SCSI....

-Søren

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