Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 19:44:18 +0200 From: Alexey Zelkin <phantom@FreeBSD.org.ua> To: Jon Barber <jon.barber@acm.org> Cc: Matt Smith <matt@forsetti.com>, java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IDEs Message-ID: <20021120194418.B43416@phantom.cris.net> In-Reply-To: <3DDBA747.9070503@acm.org>; from jon.barber@acm.org on Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 03:16:23PM %2B0000 References: <1037803230.1305.6.camel@d80h149.public.uconn.edu> <3DDB9FD5.1020704@acm.org> <1037804184.1305.8.camel@d80h149.public.uconn.edu> <1037803230.1305.6.camel@d80h149.public.uconn.edu> <3DDBA747.9070503@acm.org>
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hi, Almost agree with this point of view. Except one point -- from my expirience IDEA is very memory sentensive beast. But it allows it be much more fast and comfortable than JBuilder. ps: my personal HO, of course. On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 03:16:23PM +0000, Jon Barber wrote: > Matt Smith wrote: > > >Jon- > > Thanks for the FAST reply. I will check it out! Have you ever used > >Netbeans/Forte/Sun One Studio? Can you compare it to IntelliJ? > > > I've used both NetBeans & Forte, though not the most recent versions. > Never tried Sun One Studio, though I suspect this is Forte renamed ? > Anyway, I found them to be too heavy on system usage & do stuff I > didn't want. IDEA starts up pretty fast & seems light on resources, > which I like as I develop mainly on a laptop. > > IDEA has some very nice refactoring facilities. For example, it tells > you straight away what imports are redundant and can sort them out for > you. You can highlight a section of code within a method and extract > that selection to a new method, and IDEA will take care of generating > the signature etc. You can also use a class that has no correct import > at the top of the file & IDEA will try and work out which package it is > in. If it is correct you tell it so (by hitting ctrl+enter, I think) > and it inserts the import for you. > > I've worked on projects with 1000+ classes etc, and I would not hesitate > to use IDEA on them (we used JBuilder, which was perfectly OK, but IDEA > would have been better for me). > > IDEA is really a lightweight editor with neat refactoring and > intelligence about how to code java. The tag line is 'develop with > pleasure', and that certainly has been my experience. Well worth $399 > (I think). > > Jon. > > >-Matt > >On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 09:44, Jon Barber wrote: > > > > > >>IDEA by IntelliJ - Jehovah's own IDE : www.intellij.com > >>http://www.intellij.com/idea/ > >> > >>Seriously, I've been using IDEs for 6 years or so, and previously > >>JBuilder was my favourite, but IDEA is by far the best I have tried. > >> > >>Jon. > >> > >>Matt Smith wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>All- > >>> Are there certain IDEs you all use for Java coding? Of course, I > >>>expect vi, [x]emacs, jEdit, but how about complete environments? I have > >>>been using Netbeans 3.4 with good success under linux-sun-jdk1.3.1, but > >>>find that it crawls on my 1.8 GHz P4/512 MB RAM. So, I am wondering > >>>what you all use that might be faster, but still as "all-inclusive" as > >>>Netbeans. > >>> > >>>Thanks all, > >>>-Matt > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>________________________________________________________________________ > >>This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan > >>service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working > >>around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com > >>________________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan > service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working > around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com > ________________________________________________________________________ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message
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