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Date:      Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:00:22 -0700
From:      John-Mark Gurney <gurney_j@efn.org>
To:        Scott Long <scottl@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: make /dev/pci really readable
Message-ID:  <20030616220022.GW73854@funkthat.com>
In-Reply-To: <3EEE3BF2.3020809@freebsd.org>
References:  <20030616074122.GF73854@funkthat.com> <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1030616135002.8726B-100000@fledge.watson.org> <20030616194935.GR73854@funkthat.com> <3EEE2B31.4020406@freebsd.org> <20030616213312.GV73854@funkthat.com> <3EEE3BF2.3020809@freebsd.org>

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Scott Long wrote this message on Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 15:51 -0600:
> John-Mark Gurney wrote:
> >hmmm.  are you sure about this?  wouldn't it mean that by simply probing
> >for a device you could end up locking up the system? 
> >
> 
> The first 64 bytes in the space is likely safe, from bytes 65-255 it is
> entirely vendor specific.

ok, agreed..  Dare I ask that we let normal users read the first 64
bytes? and require write permissions to read about 64? :)  just kidding..

> I'll not argue your development practices.  However, I don't see it as
> unreasonable to ask that driver writers who are going to need root
> access to do their work anyways (modifying files, compiling kernels
> and/or loading modules) also use root to access the pci registers from
> userland.

everything up to the loading modules I like to do as normal user..

> I seem to remember Linx having a similar feature a few years ago and
> naive sysadmins getting into serious trouble by pointing their tape
> backups at the /proc/pci directory.

:) well, lucky for use /dev/pci doesn't have a write interface.. :)

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  John-Mark Gurney				Voice: +1 415 225 5579

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