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Date:      Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:47:47 +0100
From:      Hans Nieser <hans@nieser.net>
To:        freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Keyboard problems (was Re: Solution)
Message-ID:  <4390B2F3.1000303@nieser.net>
In-Reply-To: <4390A7AC.5000806@xs4all.nl>
References:  <1133550903.757.24.camel@tower> <4390A7AC.5000806@xs4all.nl>

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Hans Nieser wrote:
> Mark Nowiasz wrote:
>> Hans Nieser wrote:
>>
>>> I suppose this means that if you want a non-default keyboard layout you
>>> have to set it through the XkbModel/XkbLayout options in xorg.conf from
>>> now on. I wonder why the Keyboard Preferences dialog wasn't updated
>>> accordingly though... I might be entirely wrong about this
>>
>> Actually, this is quite hard to believe - this would make the keyboard
>> preferences (and the panel) totally useless. In this case, Gnome should
>> disable the settings.
>>
>> It's also hard to believe because there are very valid reasons to allow
>> the user to use a different layout (instead of the system's layout):
>>
>>       * consider a true multi-user system, where users want to use
>>         "their" native keyboard layout (for example, at a international
>>         university)
>>       * sometimes, it's quite useful to switch layouts on the fly - the
>>         US keyboard layout has certain aadvantages to the German one
>>         when you want to program something ({}[] are more easily
>>         accessible).
>>
>> Disabling this feature would be madness, IMHO.
> 
> 
> I fully agree, which is why I am seriously doubting wether my conclusion 
> is correct, but then the comments for the 
> "/desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd/overrideSettings" key are 
> pretty clear about it too.
> 
> I guess they real question is, what is meant by "system configuration"?, 
> is it user-specific? (although I suppose the name can be percieved to 
> imply that it is not), and where is it changed?

On a side-note, after messing a bit with keyboard-related parameters in my 
xorg.conf, I was presented with a dialog upon logging into Gnome asking me 
that the X and Gnome keyboard settings didn't match, and which ones I 
wanted to use. I chose Gnome, but it still ignored my keyboard settings 
from gconf (U.S. English International with deadkeys), and the error was 
still there.

(PS. I modified the subject to indicate the problem isn't solved for 
everyone yet.)



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