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Date:      Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:16:36 -0800
From:      "FreeBSD WickerBill" <freebsdwicker@gmail.com>
To:        "Garrett Cooper" <youshi10@u.washington.edu>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Remote Desktop Connection
Message-ID:  <2d19405f0701261316w4d2af0f9m10c421988a2ad15e@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <45B83FEE.5030501@u.washington.edu>
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On 1/24/07, Garrett Cooper <youshi10@u.washington.edu> wrote:
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> FreeBSD WickerBill wrote:
> > On 1/24/07, Grzegorz Pluta <grzegorz.pluta@segi.pl> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks for all the replies guys!
> >> It was really helpful
> >> Cheers,
> >> Greg
> >>
> >>
> >> Kevin Kinsey wrote:
> >> > Grzegorz Pluta wrote:
> >> >> Hi.
> >> >> Id like to asj you guys if you used any remote desktops with
> freebsd?
> >> >> Which
> >> >> client/server would you recommend, and why? Witch wich desktop env
> >> >> have you
> >> >> been using it?
> >> >
> >> > I use Xorg & XFCE4 on my FreeBSD desktop(s).  For remote desktop
> >> > connections:
> >> >
> >> > FreeBSD -> FreeBSD: ssh with X11 forwarding (-X or -Y options, see
> >> > manpage).
> >> >
> >> > FreeBSD -> Windows: rdesktop (/usr/ports/net/rdesktop).  Works
> >> > beautifully for work.  Can't recall which, but some games don't seem
> to
> >> > like it.
> >> >
> >> > Windows -> FreeBSD:  freeXer and PuTTY with X11 forwarding enabled.
> >> Kind
> >> > of interesting to have my FreeBSD desktop apps on my wife's lappy at
> >> the
> >> > breakfast table ;-).  With this setup, Windows actually is the
> "window
> >> > manager" --- kinda disconcerting at first glance :-D
> >> >
> >> > Kevin Kinsey
> >>
> >> Overall, as many have suggest on the list there are a number of caveats
> >> to using different means of connecting.
> >>
> >> Here's a short rundown with all of my comments:
> >>
> >> rdesktop and krdc (KDE rdesktop) work for connecting to Windows NT 5.0+
> >> servers. Don't have a Windows server that meets that spec? Probably
> >> won't need rdesktop/krdc then.. Don't install krdc unless you also want
> >> to install KDE.
> >>
> >> X11 forwarding through ssh is great when you're connections between you
> >> and the remote machine are relatively fast (fast up on the server, fast
> >> down on the client). Compression with ssh (-C flag--not available on
> all
> >> ssh or ssh2 implementations) is a good idea when using this to connect
> >> remotely because there's a lot of data that gets piped through an X11
> >> connection.
> >>
> >> VNC is better for keeping remote sessions active after disconnecting
> >> from the machine. There are many VNC servers software titles, but you
> >> will either probably look into tightvnc (creates a new X session per
> >> instance), or x11vnc (connects to an existing X session on your
> >> machine). Quality, speed and latency are an issue here as VNC is sort
> of
> >> bad at caching tiles on the desktop. Using a lightweight wm or desktop
> >> is a wise idea though without a desktop picture and sticking to X11
> only
> >> widgets (xclock, xterm, etc) is a good idea as the redraw is better
> than
> >> gtk or qt apps or other programs (firefox, thunderbird). Try to wrap
> the
> >> connection using portforwarding via SSH if you're logged in from a
> large
> >> LAN or over a WAN because everything sent with tightvnc is cleartext,
> so
> >> passwords, credit card numbers, etc can be sniffed by a knowledgeable
> >> individual.
> >>
> >> I'm still amazed that nomachinex hasn't been ported to FreeBSD, but
> it's
> >> a complete binary release of a 'hacked' X11 system, so the devs at the
> >> nomachine group probably haven't gotten around to porting it yet.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> - -Garrett
> >> -
> >
> >
> > It's in the ports.
> >
> > portless nxserver
> > This is a port of NoMachine's NX server, which is a way to
> > use X connections over slow links without noticeable lag.
> >
> > WWW: http://www.nomachine.com
> >
> > I use it daily from a windows client to home computer running PC-BSD
> (KDE)
> > It runs much faster than I could ever get VNC to run. I use rdesktop
> going
> > from FreeBSD to Windows and it works fine too.
>
> WickerBill,
>         Ah, excellent. Didn't know that.. ports_glob doesn't always turn
> up the
> right answers; a tool should be made in conjunction with portell to
> search package descriptions, similar to Gentoo's esearch I think..
>
> Greg,
>         Give nxserver a shot. It's by far a lot better than VNC and it
> ties
> directly into working X sessions IIRC and is equivalent in speed to
> remote desktop on Windows NT (in fact possibly faster from what I've
> heard on slower connections). Plus it's secure (built in ssh tie-ins).
> They (the devs) have a few test servers up so you can give it a shot and
> see how it works.
> Cheers,
> - -Garrett



I use psearch, found in /urs/ports/sysutils/psearch          An utility for
searching the FreeBSD Ports Collection

It returns one liners and then I use portless to read those I want more info
on...I'll have to try portell



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