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Date:      Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:11:56 -0700
From:      Garrett Cooper <youshi10@u.washington.edu>
To:        Predrag Punosevac <punosevac@math.arizona.edu>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Looking for powerful machines that runs FreeBSD on it
Message-ID:  <46C27D0C.3070300@u.washington.edu>
In-Reply-To: <46C27206.9010404@math.arizona.edu>
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Predrag Punosevac wrote:
> Garrett Cooper wrote:
>> Predrag Punosevac wrote:
>>> Caio Figueiredo Abecia wrote:
>>>> I'm looking for a new pc.
>>>> I had a problem installing BSD (Free/Open/Net!) with the Dell 
>>>> Dimension C521n. (Free/Open BSD website tells me that it support 
>>>> the E521 that have the same configuration)
>>>> It don't recognize my dell usb keyboard and my SATA DVD Rom drive 
>>>> was not detected at all.
>>>>
>>>> I call Dell support and I was complaining that when I saw that 
>>>> model on their website and I called to the vendors they said that 
>>>> this model would come without SO (Windows). That I'll be free to 
>>>> make my own choice on using any *unix SO.
>>>>
>>>> Well.. now Dell will get my machine back and pay me back the amount 
>>>> that I payed.
>>>>
>>>> Now I want to buy a powerful machine to run Development things such 
>>>> Java or Ruby on Rails on JBoss, running in some good db like 
>>>> Postgresql or MySql.
>>>> I don't want to get a new surprise to run only Windows on my machine!
>>>> (I already have 2gb ddr2 ram, I want a powerful modern pc to run 
>>>> Free or Open as my Desktop System)
>>>>
>>>> Could you guys please help me ?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot all help is greatly appreciated 
>>> Why not built one from the parts. That way you would save bundle of 
>>> money and have the computer which will run FreeBSD without a hitch. 
>>> That is what I did.
>>
>> Not everyone has this option, or the expertise. And some people like 
>> the warranty that comes from buying Dell products.
>> -Garrett
> If I could do it, anybody can:-) Retail parts DO have manufacture 
> warranty for at least 1 year - 3 years depends on the component .
> OMS and open box parts are significantly cheaper but usually come with 
> a very limited warranty 1-3 months (basically Dead On Arrival warranty)
> Buying from the Dell might be a great good deal if you need lots of 
> low grade desktop computers which will be heavily abused. (like the 
> one we use in public libraries)
>

    I'm a large proponent of custom-built machines, but there are some 
cases (like with large companies or educational institutions) where it's 
simple not feasible to build every machine from scratch with parts, and 
dealing with Dell via their Gold / Corporate warranty and support is the 
way to go. That's what I was referring to.
    I know because I was 1st level IT support for a large department at 
the University of Washington with over 700~800 machines. There's no way 
a large amount of custom boxes really would work, and the handful that 
were present were a pain to deal with more often than not.
Cheers,
-Garrett



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