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Date:      Wed, 20 Dec 2017 15:08:42 +0200
From:      Tommi Pernila <tommi.pernila@iki.fi>
To:        Michael Gmelin <freebsd@grem.de>
Cc:        Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>, Johannes Lundberg <johalun0@gmail.com>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Vote: making wayland=on default
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Looking forward to testing Wayland more on FreeBSD.

So yes please!


-Tommi

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Michael Gmelin <freebsd@grem.de> wrote:

>
>
> > On 20. Dec 2017, at 13:32, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 09:20:20AM +0000, Johannes Lundberg wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> I want to suggest that we enable wayland by default. In current state
> >> having some parts of wayland in ports is basically useless the
> >> end-users themselves re-build gtk30 and mesa-libs with wayland
> >> enabled.
> >>
> >> libwayland-egl.so from mesa-libs and the extra libraries and headers
> >> from gtk30 adds like a few KB, a drop in the ocean compared to xorg
> >> packages. (might be something more that I missed)
> >>
> >> Personally I see no reason not to make it default on, even with
> >> flavors coming up. For any Desktop user (as well as embedded devices
> >> like IVI-systems and whatnot), Wayland is the future. There's no
> >> escaping that.
> >>
> >> Wayland has been quite usable on FreeBSD for over a year now but
> >> access to it is limited due to the extra efforts required to use it.
> >>
> >> If we are to compare with the other guys, several Linux distros are
> >> already switching to wayland-based compositors as default window
> >> server.
> >>
> >> What do you think?
> >>
> >
> > I agree on that, we should activate wayland everywhere by defualt, as it
> does
> > not prevent at all from having a fully fonctionnal regular X working as
> well.
> >
> > All wayland option should be on, and this as nothing to do with flavors
> :)
> >
> > Please do it :)
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Bapt
>
> I add my "vote" from the X11 list: Yes please, I had exactly that problem
> yesterday.
>
> Best,
> Michael
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